We might finally be able to answer this question in 2020

[puretime]

Yes like another user pointed out on the end links a d also, I see it here on the crown too.

It's probably very subtle and something you only see when you zoom in.

I remember singing the praises of the GMF bracelet and somekne suggested taking higher magnification shots and it didn't make the GMF bracket any less impressive. It was still really nice.

But then I looked closely at the ARF and under high magnification, it was more impressive. All the seams lined up very tightly. All the edges were finished much better. There were no little tiny flaws - even under high magnification.

But this is what caught my attention. It looks like there is a burn on the tack weld.

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I know what you mean bro, I had ARF, ZF and gen bracelets with me yesterday, I couldn’t say ARF is not good but ZF bracelet was really impressive for their first try. We will see more when we have the final version and when someone receives one and it will be more persuasive.


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[Yogibear]

Yes like another user pointed out on the end links a d also, I see it here on the crown too.

It's probably very subtle and something you only see when you zoom in.

I remember singing the praises of the GMF bracelet and somekne suggested taking higher magnification shots and it didn't make the GMF bracket any less impressive. It was still really nice.

But then I looked closely at the ARF and under high magnification, it was more impressive. All the seams lined up very tightly. All the edges were finished much better. There were no little tiny flaws - even under high magnification.

But this is what caught my attention. It looks like there is a burn on the tack weld.

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They are working at a temperature of 370°c to 400°c to get those brown colour stains.
I dont know if they're new to using 904l steel but the heat input should be low (140°c). 1-1.5 kj/mm.
904l needs careful control with fast speeds and no weaving.
They basically over heated and burned the chrome out which protects it from corrosion.

 

[puretime]

They are working at a temperature of 370°c to 400°c to get those brown colour stains.
I dont know if they're new to using 904l steel but the heat input should be low (140°c). 1-1.5 kj/mm.
904l needs careful control with fast speeds and no weaving.
They basically over heated and burned the chrome out which protects it from corrosion.

Yes they are new and according to ZF, most of the 904 bracelets have 316L clasps so other don’t have such issues, and they claim they are real 904L on the clasp. But still thanks for the info and I will pass over.


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[Yogibear]

Yes they are new and according to ZF, most of the 904 bracelets have 316L clasps so other don’t have such issues, and they claim they are real 904L on the clasp. But still thanks for the info and I will pass over.


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Okay I see. Are case backs 904l ? That's probably the most important part to be actual 904l.

 

[vortex4me]

Who has the best sub

Stay tuned

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Does this mean there will be better prices on the previous models the factory might have?


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[puretime]

Okay I see. Are case backs 904l ? That's probably the most important part to be actual 904l.

It should be but I will double check


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[puretime]

Does this mean there will be better prices on the previous models the factory might have?


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Sorry what do you mean?


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[vortex4me]

Sorry what do you mean?


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Since the new version is coming out soon, is there any sales on the previous versions?


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[majwilliams0308]

Since the new version is coming out soon, is there any sales on the previous versions?


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Typically not, but sometimes the factories will run clearance on their stock with certain dealers.

 

[puretime]

Since the new version is coming out soon, is there any sales on the previous versions?


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Which one did you refer to? ZF didn’t make any subs before.


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[vortex4me]

Which one did you refer to? ZF didn’t make any subs before.


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Ahhh, okay. I thought they did.


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[vortex4me]

Typically not, but sometimes the factories will run clearance on their stock with certain dealers.

Yeah, that’s what I was wondering about.


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[Lbsilio]

Once the makers got the 116610 sorted, could someone make a 16710 or 16570 with vr3186 please haha

Pleaaaaase!!!

 

[Btadl1997]

Any update on a possible release date?


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[maxracingshox]

Angus, good to see you again in the news section bro. Hope you and your loved ones are doing fine

 

[puretime]

Angus, good to see you again in the news section bro. Hope you and your loved ones are doing fine

Hehe thanks man, good to see some old faces here


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[Hidenjoy]

Hehe thanks man, good to see some old faces here


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Release date please of the ZF LV

 

[puretime]

Release date please of the ZF LV

2 weeks and first batch very limited


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[Anonray]

2 weeks and first batch very limited


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Angus any tentative date for the LN?

 

[botsyboy]

It’s a shame ZF can’t produce the new model instead as the 116 series are now out of date!????


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