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Watertightness test using the vacuum negative pressure method

Solution6

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As I got a new toy, I wanted to do a bit of digging into the subject. I will continue wet testing on some of my watches for reference purposes.

The vacuum-negative pressure method (min 100 mbar - max 700 mbar negative pressure) is a so-called dry pressure test and is therefore carried out without the addition of water in a so-called rough vacuum (1 mbar - 1,013 mbar).

As can be seen in the graphic, the watch is placed on a support in a vacuum chamber. Then the sensor is adjusted. A negative pressure (vacuum) is now generated in the chamber. Due to the watch's own pressure, the case begins to deform in the micrometer range (see orange arrows). Pressure is exerted from the inside outwards on the bottom lid, the glass and the crown.

The weak points are always the seals (shown in red).

If the watch keeps the deformation in the vacuum, the watch is waterproof. If the deformation decreases or the watch does not deform at all, the watch is leaking.

In the process, different negative pressures are always used in ascending order (depending on the deformability of the watch). If the watch deforms too much, the measurement is aborted and repeated with less pressure. This is how the tightness of the watch is determined.

This method is beneficial since the housing is pressed out of the seals at higher internal pressures (the seal opens earlier, which means that a leak can be detected more quickly). In contrast, with the overpressure process, the watch is compressed (pressed into the seals), which in extreme cases can lead to the glass breaking/popping out.

For everyday watches, the vacuum-low pressure method is completely sufficient, since, for example, -0.7 bar low pressure (rough vacuum) measures roughly the same tightness as the 10 bar overpressure test. (Stated, I’m still to check the math).

The vacuum test corresponds to normal stresses on the watch during wearing, showering, swimming and snorkelling.

Special diving watches (more than 10 bar tightness) should be tested in both procedures due to the changing pressure conditions during diving.


 
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Sweet, definitely have to meet up and test a few, out of pure curiosity.

But I'm still a 100% wimp with all my watches in the pool though - it messes with my tan lol.

Congrats on the new toy L 💪
 
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I just had a local jeweler use a vacuum negative pressure test on my RXWF Glashutte SeaQ after lubing the gaskets up. It passed after a 30s test at -0,7bar.

He too said the sales person selling his vacuum tester claimed the -0,7 bar was equal too about 100m ATM / 10 bar overpressure and the watch was safe to swim with. After reading a Reddit post I have a few doubts about this 100m claim.

I see this thread is nearly 2 years old now. Solution6 do you have any updates about your experience with the vacuum tester and it's presumed 100m water resistance claim? Thanks

 
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I had one of my customers go snorkelling with a VSF Sub after passing the -0.7 Vacuum, not sure if a coincidence as well as those cases are quite good with WR.

After using that for a while, I decided to switch to something more easy to translate into results for customers, so went with a Witschi dry tester for -0.5 vacuum to 5Bar (pictured below) and a Bergeon 100M wet tester, covering a variety of scenarios.




 
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I think this is a good solution, simple, and best of all the movement can stay inside, without a need to disassemble it again once you know it is water tight.

I used a wet tester which for one watch, proved useful as I was using a gen but chipped crystal and it leaked from a certain place around the crystal. Being able to see the bubbles I knew where to fix the leak. I did this with uv cure glue since it seemed a waste not to use an otherwise good rolex crystal. For any other build with undamaged parts, it probably is not necessary to know where a leak is since a decent quality and well assembled build with properly lubricated seals with loctite in the right places, should result in good water tightness.

Thanks for the explanation of how the tester works and for the pictures, very interesting.
 

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I had one of my customers go snorkelling with a VSF Sub after passing the -0.7 Vacuum, not sure if a coincidence as well as those cases are quite good with WR.

After using that for a while, I decided to switch to something more easy to translate into results for customers, so went with a Witschi dry tester for -0.5 vacuum to 5Bar (pictured below) and a Bergeon 100M wet tester, covering variety of scenarios.
That must have been my 116610LN Franken.

Still holds up to the regular swimming and submersion i put it through, but do test annually.
 
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