watchmaker9 "new preorder sub cases" perfect match

[daytona4me]

Dont let this thread get derailed by scammer, not a scammer. Good points have already been made. I have no respect for the shill game to benefit yourself, George has done this before.. also,, his products have spoken for themselves in the past. There has been quality and question with him.

Facts:
He will produce something...
Dealers may or may not get their hands on a great looking case...


Dont put the cart before the horse... keep this informational and not argumentative.

Please add only new info to this thread or opinions that have not already been shared.

Thanks,

 

[MICAVI]

Dont let this thread get derailed by scammer, not a scammer. Good points have already been made. I have no respect for the shill game to benefit yourself, George has done this before.. also,, his products have spoken for themselves in the past. There has been quality and question with him.

Facts:
He will produce something...
Dealers may or may not get their hands on a great looking case...


Dont put the cart before the horse... keep this informational and not argumentative.

Please add only new info to this thread or opinions that have not already been shared.

Thanks,

Okay, I'll save the rest until we have something tangible and new to discuss. Until then...

 

[magick1]

Well since I started this thread just because I was looking over at WM9 to see what was up and saw this 1:1 claim...............and wanted to know... what you guys who know better than me thought....I'll make a statment about what has been written latley. I'm not a shill for sure. I have bought a few watches fromWM9 and I was happy untill I found them here at a cheaper price. Still I was happy at the time I made the purchase. I did purchase 1 watch from him and was not happy with the finish(a 2 tone sub) he sent another and I was still not satified and he offered me a full refund. Scammer(?) maybe on price with people here on this forum...... but in sales I'm sure most of you know you can shop the same item at different stores and find different prices.
So why shouldn't it be any different here....I belive it is the same here with our dealers here(different prices) isn't it? Where there is a willing buyer there is always a product and price willing to be payed. So isn't it always up to the buyer to make a informed purchase that he feels happy with? I for one made a purchase from Andrew(trustytime) which at the time I thought was fantastic and through time and learning on this board now I'm not so happy.........so what... I learned a lesson right?

 

[daytona4me]

@MICAVI

I can already see two guys bent backwards pissing in the wind... just dont want it to get out of hand.. by all means.. post if you want to.. you know what I'm saying..

 

[MICAVI]

@MICAVI

I can already see two guys bent backwards pissing in the wind... just dont want it to get out of hand.. by all means.. post if you want to.. you know what I'm saying..

I totally understand and I really don't have anything more to say on the subject until we see what gets delivered.


Who has ordered or is planning on ordering one of these? Any news regarding an estimated delivery date?

 

[gioarmani7428]

Who has ordered or is planning on ordering one of these? Any news regarding an estimated delivery date?

First June, then late July, then pushed back the people who'd already purchased to August, now saying "maybe" in September.

Answer: Never, apparently.

 

[MICAVI]

Who has ordered or is planning on ordering one of these? Any news regarding an estimated delivery date?

First June, then late July, then pushed back the people who'd already purchased to August, now saying "maybe" in September.

Answer: Never, apparently.

Wow, these are closer to a genuine Rolex than.....a genuine Rolex......these really do take a year to make.

 

[gioarmani7428]

*sigh*

Lol--if only I were a dealer...

 

[Jake48]

Reasonable statements that didn't need the chicken little argument that "the sky is falling.'
With all your "scammer" this and that arguments the point remains that we will have to wait and see.
My take on the "WM9 is a scammer because he charges ridicules prices" is that people didn't wail "scammer" when some of our very own dealers were charging $500.00 + for "perfect subs."
I certainly wouldn't pay that much and that is what is beautiful about a free market - you don't have to.
What amazes me is that again, it is really simple - some people think WM9 is a scammer, some do not.
I like to go with verifiable facts. You seem to like to go with subjective facts. That is our main difference.
I will wait and see about all the "predictions". At the end of the day, right now, they are just that - predictions.
No one knows what will happen with the WM9 sub. I would prefer to wait before we tie WM9 to the stake and burn him.
You have him on the stake and are trying to light the match.

So it would be okay for me to put up a $200 Sub on eBay or something similar and charge $900 for it? Describing it as 1:1 and how it's A+ Swiss Grade 1, etc. Looks exactly like the real deal, etc. Certainly someone would buy it, not knowing any better. But who cares if I overcharged them by almost 500%, it's a free market and they didn't have to buy it, no one forced them.

When you compare this to the "Ultimate Versions" offered by some dealers, you're comparing apples to oranges. I don't like Andrew or Josh's business practices either, but what they were offering were subs that had to be modified after the watch had already been made. That is an added expense. RBJ and the like were offering the same services and if you compared the price increase over a stock sub, you'd save money buying it already modded.

How ironic!
Like I said - I am always cautious about people who yell the loudest - Wild accusations seem to end up going both ways and never really benefit anyone...

That wasn't very pleasant was it Micavi? Were you surprised at how quick you were thrown up on the stake and how fast people gathered with matches lit? (I wasn't) Maybe you can see it from where I sit with WM9 - not saying he is a scammer, but not fully committed to saying he is not - it is just nice when you wait and get the facts before you call someone out. Especially when your statements impugn someones integrity.

http://replica-watch.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=30535&sid=2062fe2e5eb5587d1042fdff98d987de

I've been offered a great deal on a D serial Seadweller and as such I need to get rid of a few of my pricier replicas so I can afford the Seadweller. This AP was acquired in a trade about 5 weeks ago and it's in great condition. It has the Swiss 7750 in it and everything works flawlessly. I was never too into this watch since it's so big, but I have worn it a couple times. The date wheel shows through real good, except on the 8th the bottom part is cut off, a datewheel change and you're good to go or maybe it's fixable, I don't know. If you don't get to go to the gym much then this watch is for you, it probably weighs 20 lbs. So if your other hobby has your right arm bulging, you can get this watch to even things out. Anyways, here are the pics, once again I still don't have a digital camera so it's webcam pictures again. I have many successful trades and sales on this forum so rest assured I have nothing to hide. If you have any questions please don't hesitate to ask. Asking $590 OBO shipped within the US with no customs worries. Add $10 for international shipping and you assume all customs risks. I wanna sell by Tuesday so if you want it, don't wait. I think it's priced very fair, but I'll consider offers. No trades please.

Thanks for looking. Pm's have first dibs and then replies here.

Hey Micavi isn't this the AP you ripped off from ArleighBurke when he was having so much trouble here on the forum? You figured he was in so much crap that you could rip him off and no one would care. Hell you are even selling the MBW here you told him you would trade the AP for. Who's the scammer now? People watch out for this guy he's not what he seems. By the way that AP has an Asian 7750 28800 in it according to it's rightful owner. And new it was $380.00usd. Sorry for bringing all this out people but you got a right to know. This Micavi has a lot to answer for.

this is interesting. steiner, i would like to know how you know of all this information. also, micavi do you have any pics of the mvmt to prove this has a swiss mvmt?

I know AB and have done a few trades with him. He contacted me recently looking for some AP band links. I emailed him this morn when I saw this for sale. I knew about it when AB didn't get the MBW he traded for. He told me that Micavi most likely thought it ok to pull this stunt in light of all the crap that was going on at the time.

AB himself got nuked for all the trouble he was in. Right then Micavi figured he could stiff him because he would not be able to cry SCAMMER about Micavi.