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WatchEden "Same Structure As 7750-High Quality" NOT!!!

hk45ca

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i was also under the impression swiss structure was the same as a so called swiss movement watch except for the movement. i haven't bought one these type of watches so i haven't had first hand experience with them. if this isn't the case it is something that needs to be looked at or we will be back to "1 to 1 AAA+ swiss made replicas".

i am also tired of "what do you expect for 150.00". that is a bullshit cop out, this is what you get for 150.00 and it is arguably one of the best diving watches made.

i think it is about time to bump the little white lies thread back to the top again. it's looking like it is time for a reality check.





 

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Well I have put the watch above way behind me and sold it for a loss after receiving it.. It would have cost $50 to return it..

That was just a minor difference in the case and a few wrinkles in the steel compared to the last watch I received.....

I have learned well just because it says "Same As"this is often not true and let that go and thought I could believe it was a Higher Quality and other models of the same watch...

Thanks for your comments I am trying to return this this watch now which makes the last issue a mistake to post...

I ordered this one
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Said to be Same as 7750 its not, I looked at the photos but is nice enough for me...


I received this one no engraving at all, different case, bracelet and back :(

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I asked if it was a mistake that they sent this one by mistake.. I was told their professional looked at the images and said it was what I ordered...

I am not sure what there profession was but I don't think it has anything to do with seeing...

I asked in there online chat if they if they sell whats pictured on the site and was told yes of coarse...

As of now I have a big trust issue with buying any watches from anyone now...

I am still trying to find what my terms are to return this for refund, I guess I will pay dearly for the privloge.

Thanks for your comments of support...

This is a different watch, yes? (from the OP)
I'm sorry...... the watch you received looks nothing like the dealer picture.
You seem to have a bit of bad luck, rarebear. Sorry to see that. I hope you get this all straightened out.
 

steve12345

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I see similar threads on two other rep Forums. Thanks for saving me $$$ as I was about to order several watches from them.

Steve
 

Meta4

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Sir, you paid 138 $ for this watch; what else were you expecting ? You want a decent and quality excellence Ruben Barrichello rep. go for the ones selling between $ 400-600. You want decent par excellence reps. they do not sell for less than 250$.

It's not that simple.
You can pay big $ for a less than satisfactory rep but you can also get great reps for much less than $250.
It pays to read reviews and customer feedback to get an idea of which watches are great value.
I've picked up some very nice watches below $250 and I don't think I'd pay more than that for a rep.

I just took delivery of a beauty.
It genuinely is the same case as its more expensive brother and was in the same price range as the one complained about here.
Just posted a pic here ... http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/another-satisfied-hont-customer-44674?t=44674
 

jmb

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I have also wondered about the "Same structure as 7750 blah blah blah..." stuff. I ordered the following description from idolreplicas:

Tag Heuer Link 200 Meters Working Chronograph with Black Dial-Same Chassis As 7750 Version-High Quality(Man Size)

This is the quartz version of the 7750 powered rep. If somebody has the 7750 version of this watch I would be interested in swapping pix (you show me yours, I'll show you mine... har har...) I'd love to actually compare, weigh, etc. I will say that it is a very good looking watch and feels substantial and being quartz the chrono works nicely - this is much heavier than your usual quartz wristwatch. I have bought two lower-end watches (this and a Daytona a21j) from idolreplicas and I have felt OK about them, considering their price. This one was about $113 after the CC company got their several ounces of flesh for the conversion and exchange. Here are a couple pix of the TAG:

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I would at the very least expect Either the text or the image has to be correct if neither has to right then they can send what ever they like?


They sell watches for $88 and the watch they sent is not of that quality IMHO as they have a engraved back and I paid $70 extra for a higher quality and got lower because there is no downside for them when they ship something else, the buyer has to pay and eat their mistake..


I thought there is rules for selling watches here, do the Trusted Sellers have different rules?

I just thought when they said I get what is pictured on the website that I can expect that to arrive, maybe I am wrong I am not positive what the TS rules are..

Every other watch I bought from them that said Same As" I took after awhile as higher quality as many are not the same as but some like the Omega PO is pretty much... Tony can just ass a note to his forum and inform members of this * note.. But I feel the images should be current for major changes like this... I have bought many watches from him some good some great and some I thought should be better...

This watches breaks my heart when they said it was not a mistake...

jmb

Does your watch ook like the images on the sales page ?
Mine are night and day IMHO
 

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I would at the very least expect Either the text or the image has to be correct if neither has to right then they can send what ever they like?


They sell watches for $88 and the watch they sent is not of that quality IMHO as they have a engraved back and I paid $70 extra for a higher quality and got lower because there is no downside for them when they ship something else the buyer has to eat their mistake..


I thought there is rules for selling watches here, do the Trusted Sellers have different rules?

I just thought when they said I get what is pictured on the website that I can expect that to arrive, maybe I am wrong I am not positive what the TS rules are..

I believe you are correct. The watch should be as pictured. Like I said in an earlier post, the one you received is not even close. Have you sent a message to a Mod or Admin asking fro some help? I would do that.
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jmb

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bear, seems to be but a lot gets by me at times. It is idolreplicas stock number 25348 and here are a couple of similar vantaged pix:


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And...

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jmb

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Just out of curiosity I looked through all of their selection of TAG Links to compare with a picture of the 7750 powered version, and, (drum roll, please) they don't seem to carry the 7750 powered version of my exact model. Oh well, don't really know if "same as" means "same as" or not. Kinda like when Slick Willie testified, "Depends on what your definition of the word is is..."
 

JellyJoe

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i am also tired of "what do you expect for 150.00". that is a bullshit cop out, this is what you get for 150.00 and it is arguably one of the best diving watches made.

i think it is about time to bump the little white lies thread back to the top again. it's looking like it is time for a reality check.

This is a good automatic day-date 200mt heavy duty diver for a reasonable price. :shocked:
Thanks hk45ca for the handy hint AND for the wisdom in your post.
Also, I am happy to acknowledge that some members are finally noticing the dangerous slant on which reliability is slowly rolling down into a muck tip.
It's not about being a good or a bad rep, or price. It's about having no clue what in the world you are going to find in your package.
Are we buying watches or surprise boxes for Carnival?

As long as he is only having enthusiastic feedback, Hont ftw guys.
And to hell with the dam surprise boxes.


P.S. rarebear for God's sake stop buying that crap or I'll personally ask your bank to freeze your credit card until your medication starts kicking in lawl
 

hooligan

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Rarebear, as I said in my PM response to you, I believe this is simply a case where the dropshipper inadvertently sent you the wrong watch. It happens. I'm sure the "professional" that looked at it was WE's distributor, perhaps they thought you odered the cheaper version? I'm not sure - either way, as I suggested in my PM, simply reply to WE and let them know you are not satisfied and would like a refund or an exchange.
 

LighterDeep

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It's not that simple.
You can pay big $ for a less than satisfactory rep but you can also get great reps for much less than $250.
It pays to read reviews and customer feedback to get an idea of which watches are great value.
I've picked up some very nice watches below $250 and I don't think I'd pay more than that for a rep.

I just took delivery of a beauty.
It genuinely is the same case as its more expensive brother and was in the same price range as the one complained about here.
Just posted a pic here ... http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/another-satisfied-hont-customer-44674?t=44674

It also depends on the watch popularity - demand and real brand name being replicated. All these factors made the RB for example a higher priced rep. A hublot rep for example low end sells for 90-150 a high end sells for 300-400. Why the price ? Because the Hublot,the AP are in Demand. Your beautiful Sinn watch is, and I just looked at the post it is very nice - although not in big demand to the mass.
 

willber g

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I ordered a Porsche Design P'6341 from WE - $325. I later saw the "same" watch (according to some on RWI and RG) for $213 on asian7750.com. Now, some say "all dealers supply the same watches, shop around" and others say "you only get what you pay for". I suppose only personal experience is going to reveal the truth.
I'll let you know what I get!
Cheers,
Willber
 

nowsthetime

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I see you´re somehow new to the hobby, and are still eating all the crap dealers put in their page.
If you get the cheaper watch, don´t expect it to be the same or "use the same structure" as the higher-end ones. That´s a rule, and you won´t find a single dealer that has something saying the less on their sites.

If you want a "7750 structure" then buy a 7750 itself, simple.

Everybody has complaints about their watches, but once you get used to seek what you want, and research about it everywhere too, you will know what to expect, not only ON the watch, but also FROM the dealers.

Ditto that, research a little more, fella.
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Cheers,
Spirit.

Spirit I have to disagree with you here. Watcheden and Idolreplicas specifically state for some of their cheaper watches that the case is the same as the 7750 or ETA(clone) version. It would be fair for this guy to assume they were telling the truth here. In fact a few weeks ago I emailed them to confirm this claim was correct and still have the email to prove their reply.

I think there is too much of this "you are new and don't know what you are talking about" attitude on here which seems increasingly in becoming a standard reaction to anyone who is identified as a noob.

In this instance I think there is a valid complaint. The guy dealt with someone who is a trusted dealer on this site, consequently believed one of the claims on their site and the result was that it was not true. If that is not a valid complaint then what is the point of having the notion of "trusted dealers" in the first place ?
 

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Buying 21j and quartz watches is a minefield.
There are some really really good models that compare very favorably with the more expensive in the same model.
There are also some that are dreadful.
The problem you have is if the dealer is dropshipping the factory will on many occasions have altered the spec of that particular model unbeknown to the dealer who doesn't actually see it before shipping.
I would say I reject around 20% of my deliveries because the factory has decided that will do this is not only with lower priced items happens with the higher priced stuff as well.

We hold stock so we see every watch but that doesn't stop minor changes having been made and gone unnoticed obviously if it was a cheaper grade case we would notice but things like silver instead of blue hands or cannon pinion not as flush as before until brought to our attention would in all honesty likely go unnoticed.

There are always 2 or 3 grades of the same watch regardless of price
 

fireypete

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QUOTE=steve12345;446692]I see similar threads on two other rep Forums. Thanks for saving me $$$ as I was about to order several watches from them.

If a dealer is stupid enough to think he/she can 'rip off" one person and its no big deal. its just the one customer, who cares, and so on then they are in for a rude surprise.
Like Steve above, I'm not buying from watch eden. And i think there will be more, particulary newbies, who will go else where.
Reps, you just gotta realise bad news travels fast. Deliver whats promised or you will end up on a shite list.
If its any consolation 'bear know that your post has cost W/E more than just your buisness.
Pete
 

OmegaPOFL

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i've learned to just stick with dealers in the US... unless if it's T4D for the cheap stuff :)
 

jmb

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Has management addressed this possible "ethics" violation with Tony? I might have gotten lucky on mine, but there was no 7750 version to compare to so who knows...
 

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There is no way that IWC is anythink like the one in the pic. Comparing the laser engraving to the quality stuff on the first one is a joke.

As hk said, another LWL. A lot of it seems to eminate from WE of late tho.


Col.
 

dslmkr

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It might depend more on what you choose,I have a PO 45 "same as" for $108 bucks and the watch wears well and looks damn good. Very minor differences between my UPO and this cheapo version.