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Warning: Fake Clean Watches everywhere

StreetFighter

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These are really great fakes of Clean, they even got the unique (crap) Clean crown guards and milky crystal edge, exact same as Clean (which is different from gen - and every other rep) and it has the amazing sharp profile SEL's that only ARF seem to be able to pull off too.

My guess is these are real Clean.. and as above, it's just not what was expected by the OP.
 
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stufuse

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Jvs? Fakes of fakes wtf is this about haha


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btrizzy1

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Keep in mind that Clean have absolutely no consistency whatsoever anyway and a lot of talk about supposed updates is a just load of random smack talk making its way over from Reddit.

I’m inclined to believe these fake cleans are actually “genuine” cleans and the confusion lies with a false sense of expectation.

I'll take u/pmtu's information from reddit who has first hand information on all these various factories over your pure conjecture all day everyday. Without his information, I would never have ended up with my excellent JVS 126610LV.

Anyways, JVS is superior to CF, imo and it is at lower price point as well. If your fake clean is turns out to be JVS, count yourself lucky.
 
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hm11esh

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Based on the amount of watches they are handling, I would like to think they would be able to tell even if the differences are subtle.
 

muiramas

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I'll take u/pmtu's information from reddit who has first hand information on all these various factories over your pure conjecture all day everyday. Without his information, I would never have ended up with my excellent JVS 126610LV.

Anyways, JVS is superior to CF, imo and it is at lower price point as well. If your fake clean is turns out to be JVS, count yourself lucky.

That’s entirely up to you. I don’t have a CF anything - fake or otherwise. I do however have a VSF 126610, which trumps your JVS every which way.

I don’t know the Reddit person you mean - I assume from your admiration that he isn’t a 40 year old man pretending to be a 16 year old girl like half of Reddit seems to be these days.
 
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That’s entirely up to you. I don’t have a CF anything - fake or otherwise. I do however have a VSF 126610, which trumps your JVS every which way.

I don’t know the Reddit person you mean - I assume from your admiration that he isn’t a 40 year old man pretending to be a 16 year old girl like half of Reddit seems to be these days.

And exactly how do you know VSF trumps JVS every which way? Do you have both in hand, or just pure conjecture again? Can you post something of substance instead of assumptions?

Where is this superiority complex coming from?
 
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muiramas

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And exactly how do you know VSF trumps JVS every which way? Do you have both in hand, or just pure conjecture again? Can you post something of substance instead of assumptions?

Where is this superiority complex coming from?



So if someone has a different opinion to yours it’s just ‘pure conjecture’ / ‘assumptions’? And you try and make that point using nothing but conjecture and assumptions.

Given the opportunity, most people here would take the VSF if it were possible. The details of the VSF are readily available on this forum. I do not need to write an abridged version of a thread several thousand posts long to satisfy you. I have seen no evidence that the JVS is even close to equal, let alone better in any way. And I invite you to challenge this with substance.
 

Hesekiel

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Hi'yall!
Can you tell me who makes the best Sub? Is it VSF?
Asking for a friend . . .
 
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btrizzy1

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So if someone has a different opinion to yours it’s just ‘pure conjecture’ / ‘assumptions’? And you try and make that point using nothing but conjecture and assumptions.

Given the opportunity, most people here would take the VSF if it were possible. The details of the VSF are readily available on this forum. I do not need to write an abridged version of a thread several thousand posts long to satisfy you. I have seen no evidence that the JVS is even close to equal, let alone better in any way. And I invite you to challenge this with substance.

As far as I know, I have never compared VSF to JVS because I don't have both currently in hand. If you don't have both in hand, then yes it is pure conjecture. Keep making assumptions and keep blathering on.
 
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JotaMts

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Hi guys,

As I'm reading about as the same model as I've jsut bought, I want to know your opinion whether the pictures that I've received correspond to the same fake-fake that you've received or the "real" CF.
I'm a little bit confused with the monkey sticker, are they changing it everytime?? Is the 1LD clasp a proper indicator that is really the ARF collaboration??










 

citationcj2

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Thats a real CF sub. They use various parts, ( like ARF made bracelets) they change their stickers. For a guy to declare this is a fake CF sub based on 3135, 904l and monkey sticker just tells you to take what you see on the net with pinch of salt.
 

derjenigewelcher

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The Fake ones have the "cat" sticker copied with less colour contrast for example. And the clasp code 1LD is also written in completely different font.
 

JotaMts

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2 same posts. think. then post.

Sorry I’m newby… first I’ve opened the original post and then I saw this one with a more exact topic.
I’m closing this one and following in the other post.

thanks for your reponses!!
 
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