Warning: Fake Clean Watches everywhere

King22 · 1/10/21

Hey guys,

i just bought a Fake Clean GMT Master II and nearly a Fake Clean Sub No Date.
See my threads and pics on Reddit:
-GMT: https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/pz2bmr/real_or_fake_clean_gmt_master_ii/
-SUB: https://www.reddit.com/r/RepTime/comments/pyhxd8/help_clean_submariner_no_date_is_it_real/

Just watch out for those fake clean versions. Don't know how TDs are gonna handle this situation...

JohnnyBe · 1/10/21

lol we live in the era that we have to deal with real or fake,fake watches...dafuq

King22 · 1/10/21

ts0ts0s said:
lol we live in the era that we have to deal with real or fake,fake watches...dafuq

It's crazy right ?

Plaasbaas · 1/10/21

Dialog with your watch dealer:

"Is that fake?"
"Genuine."
"Genuine?"
"No, fake!"
"So what now, genuine or fake?"
"A genuine fake!"

p0pperini · 1/10/21

It's interesting that these fake fakes came from a TD. I know that the employees of TDs aren't going to know the subtle differences in the factory output of every fake watch they sell, but one would expect the TDs to be confident that their factory source is supplying them with gen fakes from the actual gen fake factory that they're claiming to be selling watches from. I mean, what's the point of a TD if you can't rely on them to sell you a gen fake.

Nassim · 1/10/21

Is the association of genuine replica going to lawsuit the fake replica industry !
It’s all fucked up now especially that it comes from a TD !!

King22 · 1/10/21

p0pperini said:
It's interesting that these fake fakes came from a TD. I know that the employees of TDs aren't going to know the subtle differences in the factory output of every fake watch they sell, but one would expect the TDs to be confident that their factory source is supplying them with gen fakes from the actual gen fake factory that they're claiming to be selling watches from. I mean, what's the point of a TD if you can't rely on them to sell you a gen fake.

Totally agree! Will be interesting how TDs are handling this situation. I emailed my TD and looking forward to his answer.

muiramas · 1/10/21

Keep in mind that Clean have absolutely no consistency whatsoever anyway and a lot of talk about supposed updates is a just load of random smack talk making its way over from Reddit.

I’m inclined to believe these fake cleans are actually “genuine” cleans and the confusion lies with a false sense of expectation.

p0pperini · 1/10/21

muiramas said:
Keep in mind that Clean have absolutely no consistency whatsoever anyway and a lot of talk about supposed updates is a just load of random smack talk making its way over from Reddit.

I’m inclined to believe these fake cleans are actually “genuine” cleans and the confusion lies with a false sense of expectation.

This is a very good point sir. I was forgetting that the critiques of the QC pics were from denizens of Reddit. And what do any of that lot know eh?

mech500 · 1/10/21

I bet they’re genuine CF, using different parts from different suppliers...doesn’t make it fake.

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King22 · 1/10/21

muiramas said:
Keep in mind that Clean have absolutely no consistency whatsoever anyway and a lot of talk about supposed updates is a just load of random smack talk making its way over from Reddit.

I’m inclined to believe these fake cleans are actually “genuine” cleans and the confusion lies with a false sense of expectation.

Honestly, never thought about this! I think you are true. Cause the watch doesnt look any different than the other QCs from Clean. Only the speedbumbs, but they dont bother me.

Nassim · 1/10/21

Mistake resolved, it was JVS factory that used clean brand to sell their stock before rebranding it JVS. It seems that it’s better than the genuine CF especially the movement...
strange industry...

King22 · 1/10/21

Nassim said:
Mistake resolved, it was JVS factory that used clean brand to sell their stock before rebranding it JVS. It seems that it’s better than the genuine CF especially the movement...
strange industry...

Where did you got this info from? So should i keep my GMT Master ?

p0pperini · 1/10/21

Nassim said:
strange industry...

It's an industry engaged in the production and sale of illegal counterfeit goods, where we all have to rely on "honour amongst thieves".

Nassim · 1/10/21

King22 said:
Where did you got this info from? So should i keep my GMT Master ?

Can not tell for the GMT, but for the 114060 it’s checked and the JVS you got is better than real clean !

Nassim · 1/10/21

the S19 SN is a JVS

King22 · 1/10/21

Nassim said:
Can not tell for the GMT, but for the 114060 it’s checked and the JVS you got is better than real clean !

So i should GL the sub ?

Nassim · 1/10/21

King22 said:
So i should GL the sub ?

Talk to your TD and see if he confirms it’s a JVS with S19 SN.

Nassim · 1/10/21

JVS 3130 movement or the one in your fake clean

King22 · 1/10/21

Nassim said:
Talk to your TD and see if he confirms it’s a JVS with S19 SN.

Appreciate your help mate! I'm gonna mail him. You think the JVS Sub is a good one ? Always thought Clean ist the best at the moment.

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