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Warning! Do not buy any SW mods dials

Fettekatze

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What are you seeing that bothers you? I ask because we all see different things.
Not my watch but the indices are a bit wonky. The rightside "1" on 11 is considerably slanted. The 11 and 1 are not level. The 10 and 2 are not level. The 8 and 4 are not level. The 7 and 5 are closest but even then the 5 is a little bit higher up. Alignment aside, the "2" on the 12 is not as tall as the "1", although that's a part production issue and not a manual human alignment issue. Date is nice and centered in the window though.
 
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Not my watch but the indices are a bit wonky. The rightside "1" on 11 is considerably slanted. The 11 and 1 are not level. The 10 and 2 are not level. The 8 and 4 are not level. The 7 and 5 are closest but even then the 5 is a little bit higher up. Alignment aside, the "2" on the 12 is not as tall as the "1", although that's a part production issue and not a manual human alignment issue. Date is nice and centered in the window though.
That's why I was taking about, the quality is not acceptable if they were charge me over $1200 for watch and mods.
 

bpbp

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But SW's latest 5712 dial is still the best we have for now
Of course! Because they only show you the perfect demo picture, once you ordered it ,they will give the crap shit!

I know the 5167a dial is all fuck up now.
Go look the Ctime show you h9w nice is watch is and take look my crap QC!
 

CTime

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Another QC just send and I am not happy with that, I've been waiting for about a month for just switch the dial, and give me the crap like that! If you were me are you will accept the crap ??? I don't know is "Mr. Wang" don't give a shit or what, this is not acceptable for over $1200 like that! And Ctime do not reply my message again. Please don't tell me you are off or something thing like that, because when you send me the QC photos in a minute I already tell you reject it, but Ctime you do not reply me!

Here is the QC.!
I'm sorry to your bad experience, our main Whatsapp account working time is 9:00-0:00, and only one person is in charge for other accounts.
Your message was during midnight in China, my coworker replied at the morning. We will try our best to offer the clients a better service.
 

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Someone mentioned SW is VVS and I fell for it, as I liked the images posted of the VVS:



The SW ended up being completely different. Too purple and too much sunburst. The 5711 should be more green with hardly any sunburst.


Another member's watch:


First pic is Buff V3 vs ZF 15202. Second pic is SW vs ZF 15202. Although the lighting direction is different (and my new shade grass did not do well this summer), you can tell the Buff is greener than the ZF and the SW is considerably purple. Wasn't a fan of it.


The only thing I liked was the lume wasn't as strong. Am trying to match lume to the Buff dial as the Buff hands are even stronger and the 3KF hands are too weak and purple.
The dealer you got your sw dial from cheated you . The dial you have IS sw but it is the old cheap version , it is not the new known sw dial.
Also , i have said many times , VVS is NOT sw. vvs is not in production anymore. There was only one batch ever made. So dont fall for any dealer saying they have vvs dial.
 

Starchild70

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Another QC just send and I am not happy with that, I've been waiting for about a month for just switch the dial, and give me the crap like that! If you were me are you will accept the crap ??? I don't know is "Mr. Wang" don't give a shit or what, this is not acceptable for over $1200 like that! And Ctime do not reply my message again. Please don't tell me you are off or something thing like that, because when you send me the QC photos in a minute I already tell you reject it, but Ctime you do not reply me!

Here is the QC.!


Unfortunately I can tell from experience with my own mod after 3 months the dial won’t get any better.
I posted already with warnings about GEEKTIME how’s he’s torally respectless, liar and cheater, but not as bad as Ctime.

They have all the money upfront and just laugh at us. Only focus is new customers with money coming inn.
We should pay half upfront and half after we’re satisfied. This should be the system via Paypal.

I won’t ever do business with China anymore.
Decided to modd mine with gen parts like, strap, buckle, dial, DW, hands and crown
 
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Starchild70

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Unfortunately I can tell from experience with my own mod after 3 months the dial won’t get any better.
I posted already with warnings about GEEKTIME how’s he’s torally respectless, liar and cheater, but not as bad as Ctime.

They have all the money upfront and just laugh at us. Only focus is new customers with money coming inn.
We should pay half upfront and half after we’re satisfied. This should be the system via Paypal.

I won’t ever do business with China anymore.
Decided to modd mine with gen parts like, strap, buckle, dial, DW, hands and crown


This is a gen, for those talking about alignment of the numbers. Look at 11 and 1, 8 and 4…
 
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What are you seeing that bothers you? I ask because we all see different things.
I think the only "glaring" flaw is the 11 is crooked. But idk I can live with that lol
 

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****I asked Ctime what's my status, and Ctime make silence again..lol*** don't tell me you are on vacation again..lol
 
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I think the only "glaring" flaw is the 11 is crooked. But idk I can live with that lol
A full set SW hands and dial is about same cost a 3kf watch, if that guy has very bad eye or hi is ok have this crap like that , I will love to sale him...lol
 

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I think the only "glaring" flaw is the 11 is crooked. But idk I can live with that lol
Btw not just that , another flaw next by date window the color of dial look like have scratched or something.. I don't know why Mr.Wang are ok the install the crap dial and send back to Ctime and waste my time of waiting? For Just installed dial is about wait for a month!!?? Lol


 

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If it helps at all, this is 3KF 5167 with the printed “330” movement. One of the TDs installed Buff dial, date, and hands. It was delivered today.

I ordered the Keylog date as I don’t like the horizontal misalignment and the fact that vertically the date isn’t “kissing” the top and bottom of the date window.

 
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I have to come to the defense of @CTime a little bit here, and TDs in general.

But first, let's say I understand the OP and other's who complain here:
  • None of us like waiting for watches, especially if expectations were set by TD that it will take X weeks and it turns out much longer
  • As a buyer of reps, you should always have the right to not accept QC that's not to your standard
  • I generally agree that most TDs could be a bit proactive to re-set expectations if there are delays
However, what I'm not liking here is:
  • The general Karen attitude being all pissed off and shouty, where from what I'm seeing, you've been treated reasonably.
  • Expecting that a mod will go well the first time is kinda setting yourself up for disappointment, this is not an exact science.
  • Could it be you're just expecting too much? Every rep, even mods, even frankens, have flaws here and there.
  • Also expecting the TDs to be able to deliver everything ASAP all the time. This is not the Apple Store, they work with many suppliers who operate under the radar, and quality and availability isn't something TDs can control.
  • Funnily enough, if you sent a gen Aquanaut to Patek for service, you'd be waiting a year, without much time estimate. Wonder how far the Karen attitude would get you with them...
Bottom line, IMHO, if a collaboration with a TD is not to your liking, you can always press the cancel button and ask for your money back. It's not like you need a fake Aquanaut.
 

Paolo1966

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SW… Buff.. ecc ecc.. are an huge business… and dials that are always completely wrong.
 

CTime

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I have to come to the defense of @CTime a little bit here, and TDs in general.

But first, let's say I understand the OP and other's who complain here:
  • None of us like waiting for watches, especially if expectations were set by TD that it will take X weeks and it turns out much longer
  • As a buyer of reps, you should always have the right to not accept QC that's not to your standard
  • I generally agree that most TDs could be a bit proactive to re-set expectations if there are delays
However, what I'm not liking here is:
  • The general Karen attitude being all pissed off and shouty, where from what I'm seeing, you've been treated reasonably.
  • Expecting that a mod will go well the first time is kinda setting yourself up for disappointment, this is not an exact science.
  • Could it be you're just expecting too much? Every rep, even mods, even frankens, have flaws here and there.
  • Also expecting the TDs to be able to deliver everything ASAP all the time. This is not the Apple Store, they work with many suppliers who operate under the radar, and quality and availability isn't something TDs can control.
  • Funnily enough, if you sent a gen Aquanaut to Patek for service, you'd be waiting a year, without much time estimate. Wonder how far the Karen attitude would get you with them...
Bottom line, IMHO, if a collaboration with a TD is not to your liking, you can always press the cancel button and ask for your money back. It's not like you need a fake Aquanaut.
Really appreciated it! 🙏
Btw we did full refund on his order, and decided to hold PP modifications for a while since none of the factories are doing 'perfect' job as our members required