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Want to replace 2813 with VS3135

Todd6699

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I’m just pissed I spent $182 on nice looking rep submariner and the damn thing didn’t work from day one. I only keep asking about the movement because the watch is gorgeous. All the right markings sapphire crystal and good weight. I don’t understand why it runs perfectly all day with a full charge sitting on my nightstand but as soon as put it on and move around it stops sporadically and I have to shake it to start working. If I dump this and buy a $600 rep, I’ll be $800 in and there are some nice watches out there for $800. Any body want to take a shot at fixing it? I live in Florida,USA.
 

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Hey Todd 6669 I understand your frustration, IMO your best bet is to get a Miyota 8215 or Miyota 821A these are direct swap for the crappy DG2813
I've done several, same size, height and same hands size ;)
 
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thinking about it, it's a cheap rep
and a movement swap is a great skill to pick up

so, go for it 😁
I read a book about watchmaking, the author said it's like the greatest temptation in the world and human history to open and do shits about a watch by yourself. People who have absolutely zero knowledge about horology will still think they can fix a watch, or swap a movement. And that's why the watchmakers survive - by fixing the shit these people started and couldn't finish.
 

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I read a book about watchmaking, the author said it's like the greatest temptation in the world and human history to open and do shits about a watch by yourself. People who have absolutely zero knowledge about horology will still think they can fix a watch, or swap a movement. And that's why the watchmakers survive - by fixing the shit these people started and couldn't finish.

we all started somewhere. 😅
You can't imagine how I was shaking when I set a seconds hand the first time. That was not even 1y ago

now I agree, some people will be hopelessly clumsy...but you don't know before you try
 

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we all started somewhere. 😅
You can't imagine how I was shaking when I set a seconds hand the first time. That was not even 1y ago

now I agree, some people will be hopelessly clumsy...but you don't know before you try
I understand, That's why I have a shitter with 6498 on my bench and I keep dissembling and assembling it over and over again.

But not on a watch I wear daily.
 
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I read a book about watchmaking, the author said it's like the greatest temptation in the world and human history to open and do shits about a watch by yourself. People who have absolutely zero knowledge about horology will still think they can fix a watch, or swap a movement. And that's why the watchmakers survive - by fixing the shit these people started and couldn't finish.
My friend used to work at a bicycle shop. They used to give a free spoke wrench to anyone who bought a new bike.

They knew everyone would try to "adjust" their spokes and the bike would be back in to be fixed shortly after, lol.

That said, while I wouldn't attempt a disassembly and service on a gen chronograph (a man's got to know his limitations), starting out with simple things is how we get to be "watchmakers." I started with a simple replacement of a quartz movement, then to the build of a Raffles Datejust, and am now building watches from the ground up, servicing movements, and creating dials from scratch.

Simple things (and replacing a movement is a fairly simple job, if you're slow and methodical about it) are the stepping stones to bigger things. I would think that most watchmakers in the field today didn't receive extensive formal training. Many of them started out apprenticing at a watch shop, watching and learning from an established watchmaker. You Tube and the internet (including this forum and others like it) are today's version of a master/apprentice relationship.

Paying someone $200 to work on a $200 watch adds up...it's better to make $20 mistakes 2 or 3 times before it's all sorted and running smoothly.
 
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thinking about it, it's a cheap rep
and a movement swap is a great skill to pick up

so, go for it 😁
Movement swap it's not a big deal the most tedious step is dealing with the hands but with patient the right tools and a good light and magnifiers lens you will do it.
But first go see some videos on yutube so you can get familiar with the process
 

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Movement swap it's not a big deal the most tedious step is dealing with the hands but with patient the right tools and a good light and magnifiers lens you will do it.
But first go see some videos on yutube so you can get familiar with the process
Doing hands after a You Tube video is like building a wooden boat after watching Norm Abrams do it on "New Yankee Workshop."

It looks so damn easy when someone with some experience does it, but plan on it taking you 10 times as long, at least until you've done a couple dozen of them.

It's frustrating as hell until you get it down and practiced, but very dobale. Just be patient, don't drink any caffiene, and don't force anything until it's exactly right. Hour and minute hands are pretty easy...seconds hands can take hours at first, lol.
 

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Movement swap it's not a big deal the most tedious step is dealing with the hands but with patient the right tools and a good light and magnifiers lens you will do it.
But first go see some videos on yutube so you can get familiar with the process
And screwed up the keyless work in the first place, now you need to reset it, and then swap the movement, and then face the situation @dpd3672 mentioned above. Good luck taking off those little chrono hands off if you are working on a chronograph.
 

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And screwed up the keyless work in the first place, now you need to reset it, and then swap the movement, and then face the situation @dpd3672 mentioned above. Good luck taking off those little chrono hands off if you are working on a chronograph.
Yeah, I doubt I'll ever have the confidence to work on a chronograph. I replaced some hands on a Daytona, and it wasn't too bad, but trying to set them on a Tag at the moment and it's very frustrating.

I'll leave the chronographs to the pros, lol.
 

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Okay, so as you guys suggested, I bought a new 2813, on Amazon so I could return it. Now, is there any one on this sight, I can send my rep and the new movement to install? You guys have scared the shit out of me in trying it on my own. Not to mention I don’t have tools anyway
 

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Okay, so as you guys suggested, I bought a new 2813, on Amazon so I could return it. Now, is there any one on this sight, I can send my rep and the new movement to install? You guys have scared the shit out of me in trying it on my own. Not to mention I don’t have tools anyway

return it. 2813 is hell. fragile hell.
post a WTB "services", maybe a charitable fellow will volunteer.

Miyota 8215 or Miyota 821A these are direct swap for the crappy DG2813
this is what you need
 
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I’m just pissed I spent $182 on nice looking rep submariner and the damn thing didn’t work from day one. I only keep asking about the movement because the watch is gorgeous. All the right markings sapphire crystal and good weight. I don’t understand why it runs perfectly all day with a full charge sitting on my nightstand but as soon as put it on and move around it stops sporadically and I have to shake it to start working. If I dump this and buy a $600 rep, I’ll be $800 in and there are some nice watches out there for $800. Any body want to take a shot at fixing it? I live in Florida,USA.
For 180 i can tell you pyd 150 to much.
I wanted to tell that we all made newbie pyments for things not worth it. Mine was 600 chf for a noob v10 worth 300 chf 😂

In my opinion youe rep is not (!) decent, no offense. Best would be, buy a noob v10 from trusty with 2836 or a clean sub with vs3135.
Sure, lot of money, but even more of a watch.