VSF VS ZF VS RXF 116610LN

[Jayalvin777]

Yes, the ln's is so close that they almost look the same:clap_1: Hulk will be better

Hey Diamant, thanks for taking the time to share with us. Was wondering if you could share a picture of the three watches on a flat surface without going too close because you can see in some the previous pictures the distortion of your phone camera, just so we can have a better look of the watches. Cheers man

 

[Jayalvin777]

wow thanks for the heads up! I was about to order an ARF bracelet, I will give a try to the VSF first

There's more information about it on the vsf comparison against Gen thread. on mine it didn't fit.

 

[StreetFighter]

wow thanks for the heads up! I was about to order an ARF bracelet, I will give a try to the VSF first

yadda yadda.. I was told an ARF bracelet won’t fit on a zzf.. guess what? I have an arf on my zzf and it’ll be going on my vsf if I decide it needs too.

 

[Jayalvin777]

yadda yadda.. I was told an ARF bracelet won’t fit on a zzf.. guess what? I have an arf on my zzf and it’ll be going on my vsf if I decide it needs too.

Have you try it? Cuz at least in mine didn't work.

 

[clockwork]

yadda yadda.. I was told an ARF bracelet won’t fit on a zzf.. guess what? I have an arf on my zzf and it’ll be going on my vsf if I decide it needs too.

then kindly keep me updated! Cause if it fits I will probably be ordering one !

 

[StreetFighter]

I’ll let you guys know.

I didn’t even need to bend pins to get the bracelet on the zzf.
if the locating holes on the vsf are in a slightly different position, pins can be manipulated and the loose internal spaces created by doing so can be shimmed so as to keep the SEL tightness.
No big deal.

Back in the day, you were lucky if the supplied bracelet fitted your watch! SEL recess did not exist and I think lug holes were hand drilled by the new guy that started on Monday there.
One had to come up with all sorts of fixes just to get the watch on your wrist 20yr ago.. lol

 

[CJS57]

I just reviewed my ZZF late C4R Bracelet and VSF and Gen 2 series and all 3 were very similar in looks and feel at least to me. I think many buyers would be happy with any of those if one just wants a very nice bracelet. If one wants to detail it down to the nth degree I am sure there are subtle differences and I don't dispute that. Now on another note my VSF is gaining 10 seconds a day vs my gen. The ZZF V2s/V3 is gaining only 2 seconds a day. Of course the gen may be the one that is off. I do plan on a ZF sub as well asap they have a No date available.

 

[Jayalvin777]

I just reviewed my ZZF late C4R Bracelet and VSF and Gen 2 series and all 3 were very similar in looks and feel at least to me. I think many buyers would be happy with any of those if one just wants a very nice bracelet. If one wants to detail it down to the nth degree I am sure there are subtle differences and I don't dispute that. Now on another note my VSF is gaining 10 seconds a day vs my gen. The ZZF V2s/V3 is gaining only 2 seconds a day. Of course the gen may be the one that is off. I do plan on a ZF sub as well asap they have a No date available.

Regardless if you go for rxf, Vsf, zf you will get an amazing bracelet, saying that bracelets of any of those factory is gargabe is pure nonsense. My vsf after 3 weeks was still 1+ s/d but I have seen different results on that. Do zf is planning as well to release a no date? So far haven't heard anything about that. I'm waiting for vsf no date to see the comparison against zzf and then decide which one should I go with.

 

[StreetFighter]

Bracelets can be improved with refinishing or softening the sharp edges and it can be lubricated and it’ll feel 10x better quality. Clasps on the other hand need to be good to begin with, they are responsible for as much of the feel as the bracelet is.
The C4R zzf clasp falls short, it’s light and the glide opens far too easily and it glides back and forth too rough.
ARF links felt much the same but the clasp is much much better.
Some refinishing to the ARF links and you got a top bracelet.
But you could just source an ARF clasp and refinish the edges of your current bracelet and you’ll basically be there.

 

[Substar]

You said on the other vsf thread that vsf bracelet was trash lol, so can't take anything you say seriously. Arf bracelet is still the best bracelet in the market but vsf quality is on par. VSF bracelet is super quality when it comes to brushing and feel. Smooth and no sharp edges whatsoever. Edited

Wtf. It is trash actually. I think the whole watch is cheap but that’s just my opinion and I’ve just said above it isn’t amazing or did you not read that right!


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[CJS57]

The C4R zzf clasp falls short, it’s light and the glide opens far too easily and it glides back and forth too rough.

I do not doubt your analysis one bit. I do think there may be different variations of the C4R clasp. Mine is super late and was sold to Prof himself by Puretime as the latest model ZZF and shipped concurrently with V3's. The C4R clasp on that one has perfect click on opening and closing. Glide lock is smooth and tight. Works perfect, I use it daily. Maybe luck of the draw or earlier production vs late production?

 

[StreetFighter]

There a lot of conflicting info n bracelet quality, some say theirs is good others say the same one is no good.

Someone posted before that its maybe to do with a batch thing, who was working the lathes that day, maybe it was Monday morning or Friday afternoon etc.

 

[GrandmasterChime]

There a lot of conflicting info n bracelet quality, some say theirs is good others say the same one is no good.

Someone posted before that its maybe to do with a batch thing, who was working the lathes that day, maybe it was Monday morning or Friday afternoon etc.

Or it could be that people dont have any other current bracelets so have no point of reference to compare. I thought the noob v8 clasp was good until i got an arf

 

[StreetFighter]

When you have genuine watches with 2 years daily wear and another with almost no wear at all to compare it to, you know exactly what a bracelet (and watch) should feel like! I suspect you are correct, too many folks dispensing opinions when they don't really know what they are talking about.

 

[Repmaster1337]

ZF have best crystal and strong genlike cyclops effect, cf parts on all i think. Smooth bracelet (arf like) hard snap on clasp like gen. Almost flush recess, good dw and aligned

VSF have best «gen» 3135 movement touch, clasp click sound and spring, best genlike recess on all sides and good aligned rehaut. Good dial and insert.

RXF have smooth a2824 movement and good dw, crystal, insert and dial. Ok recess


something like this, all amazing watches! I prefer ZF reason is the crystal/cyclops look gen.

 

[GrandmasterChime]

ZF have best crystal and strong genlike cyclops effect, cf parts on all i think. Smooth bracelet (arf like) hard snap on clasp like gen. Almost flush recess, good dw and aligned

VSF have best «gen» 3135 movement touch, clasp click sound and spring, best genlike recess on all sides and good aligned rehaut. Good dial and insert.

RXF have smooth a2824 movement and good dw, crystal, insert and dial. Ok recess


something like this, all amazing watches! I prefer ZF reason is the crystal/cyclops look gen.

That sounds like a pretty fsir summary

 

[Duckber]

Flush lugs on a rep that costs that much drives me crazy... I've seen dhgate shitters with recessed lugs. That'a a shame.

 

[Roguetheory]

ZF have best crystal and strong genlike cyclops effect, cf parts on all i think. Smooth bracelet (arf like) hard snap on clasp like gen. Almost flush recess, good dw and aligned

VSF have best «gen» 3135 movement touch, clasp click sound and spring, best genlike recess on all sides and good aligned rehaut. Good dial and insert.

RXF have smooth a2824 movement and good dw, crystal, insert and dial. Ok recess


something like this, all amazing watches! I prefer ZF reason is the crystal/cyclops look gen.

How far do you think the crown guards are off on the ZF?

 

[Repmaster1337]

How far do you think the crown guards are off on the ZF?

Maybe abit small. But need to see close to the gen first. I like them much better than zzf anyway.

 

[Doglover]

Are these newer factories just not producing any more watches with the 2836 or 2824? Is it only clone Rolex movements?


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