VSF 126610 Submariner with VS3235 Latest Movement 72 Hours Power Reserve

[Venniz]

Misaligned rehauts are all over genuine Rolex models, Rolex couldn't give less of a damn

I'm on rolex forum (Facebook) and for now I've not seen any misaligned rehaut. The crystal is most of the time better on gen rolex too. Others the that with VSF it is 99,99% gen like.

Can't believe how VSF is looking the same as gen... it is crazy.

I'm thinking of posting my VSF rolex and see what people will say. Pretty sure no one will find out it isn't a gen one. Haha

 

[Duckber]

I'm on rolex forum (Facebook) and for now I've not seen any misaligned rehaut. The crystal is most of the time better on gen rolex too. Others the that with VSF it is 99,99% gen like.

Can't believe how VSF is looking the same as gen... it is crazy.

I'm thinking of posting my VSF rolex and see what people will say. Pretty sure no one will find out it isn't a gen one. Haha

Trust me when I say the misaligned rehaut is very common on Rolex models, and that wouldn't be the tell on the vsf but rather the soft rounded lugs that don't taper as well along with the mishaped crown guards. Also don't post your vsf on the Rolex forums, it's a douchey thing to do.

 

[Venniz]

Trust me when I say the misaligned rehaut is very common on Rolex models, and that wouldn't be the tell on the vsf but rather the soft rounded lugs that don't taper as well along with the mishaped crown guards. Also don't post your vsf on the Rolex forums, it's a douchey thing to do.

Nah I won't. But it would be funny. Pretty sure no one would find out at wrist distance. Fake are so good these day's.

 

[alexcast]

Nah I won't. But it would be funny. Pretty sure no one would find out at wrist distance. Fake are so good these day's.

Sure! The owner of a Rolex Retailer would use a fake one haha


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[Venniz]

Sure! The owner of a Rolex Retailer would use a fake one haha


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This one is gen.

 

[rcom440]

I've seen many gen subs with misaligned rehauts and different sel variations. Printing application on some Subs is not that great too when checking it under a loop.
There were also a couple of genuine Explorer 1s with upside down numeral on the dial. Gen Rolex are not perfect.

 

[guybythelake]

Definetly the gen world has become a scam. Why the hell this model is being sold for over 15000usd? Offer and demand dont justify the craziness of pricing.

Absolutely right! In 1985 a Rolex GMT cost 700 bucks. 700 Bucks in 2020 is about 1700. The rip off is crazy. Yeah sure understand ceramic insert and solid links, better clasp. So add a free hundred. Still nowhere close to MSRP of 9000 or gray market of whatever.

 

[XpanzerX]

Absolutely love mine. Best OOTB rep I’ve purchased.

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[Arik dahan]

I went and checked some pictures of the original .. and do not see a significant difference in lugs .. sometimes do not need to read here .. I ordered looks a good lug for me

 

[Comebackbaby]

Just received QC photos for my 41mm 126610 LN.

 

[Comebackbaby]

VSF 126610 LN 41mm

 

[Stevenf]

I've seen many gen subs with misaligned rehauts and different sel variations. Printing application on some Subs is not that great too when checking it under a loop.
There were also a couple of genuine Explorer 1s with upside down numeral on the dial. Gen Rolex are not perfect.

Here was my gen 2013 hulk, bezel insert was not centered as well. So it’s true, Rolex QC may sometimes be worse than reps.

No issues with my 2018 and 2019 watches though, but it’s not a large enough sample size to confirm that QC issues are no longer present in recent years.

 

[Duckber]

Here's something I put together to show what I'm talking about. Lugs are clearly a huge difference once you actually compare them.

I'd like to think that I wouldn't have to say which is the rep and which is the gen. But, pictures, from the top, #1 and #3 is VSF, and #2 and #4 is gen.

This is what I've been saying from day one.

The gen starts out a bit wider and ends a bit narrower. The taper is more definitive. The finishing of the lugs on the Rolex are sharp and not soft and rounded like they are on VSF. To me, this is a clear difference and is actually a major tell for the watch.

Now, before the VSF police come and say various random things:

No, focal length does not do this drastic of a difference in change of shape. No gen would ever look like VSF under the same focal conditions. Not to mention various TDs already mentioned this is reality and people who have seen the gen and VSF together in person said it's an actual thing in person.

No, this doesn't mean I think this is a garbage rep and that it has to equal gen in order to be worn and blah blah blah. It's a good rep, it's still a good purchase, I'm simply stating that it's not as on par as their previous work but it's still a good piece. However, if you don't care for the clone movement, and only care for aesthetics, the green factory subs are superior in this regard.

 

[rcom440]

Here's something I put together to show what I'm talking about. Lugs are clearly a huge difference once you actually compare them.

I'd like to think that I wouldn't have to say which is the rep and which is the gen. But, pictures, from the top, #1 and #3 is VSF, and #2 and #4 is gen.

This is what I've been saying from day one.

The gen starts out a bit wider and ends a bit narrower. The taper is more definitive. The finishing of the lugs on the Rolex are sharp and not soft and rounded like they are on VSF. To me, this is a clear difference and is actually a major tell for the watch.

Now, before the VSF police come and say various random things:

No, focal length does not do this drastic of a difference in change of shape. No gen would ever look like VSF under the same focal conditions. Not to mention various TDs already mentioned this is reality and people who have seen the gen and VSF together in person said it's an actual thing in person.

No, this doesn't mean I think this is a garbage rep and that it has to equal gen in order to be worn and blah blah blah. It's a good rep, it's still a good purchase, I'm simply stating that it's not as on par as their previous work but it's still a good piece. However, if you don't care for the clone movement, and only care for aesthetics, the green factory subs are superior in this regard.

I think it’s just an illusion. Gen lay flat while vsf is on an angle - you can see rehaut on vsf, gen lay flat.
I think vsf lugs may be a little thinner at the base - just a fraction on mm. I seriously don’t think there is much difference between vsf and gen. I’ve been staring at vids of both gen and rep for the last few days.

 

[YellowFin]

Jesus, you have NO idea about the basic rules of optics. Juat look at the ray angle over the bezel edge. One set of pictures was clearly shot with an ultra wide angle smartphone lens while the other is closer to 100mm FF. Very obcious for anyone that ever held a camera...

 

[Duckber]

As I said, focal length will not do that drastic of a difference. I covered that and seen that reply coming a mile away. Here's a challenge: Show me a gen Rolex that looks like VSF in similar focal settings and show me a VSF that has the lugs of a gen Rolex, taper and non-roundedness and all in that same focal shot.

It's already been stated by people who seen both in person that this is not just an optics issue, they confirmed it's a real thing.

How come I haven't seen such a drastic difference in photos of the 116610 by VSF versus the Rolex? They look practically identical.

I think it’s just an illusion. Gen lay flat while vsf is on an angle - you can see rehaut on vsf, gen lay flat.
I think vsf lugs may be a little thinner at the base - just a fraction on mm. I seriously don’t think there is much difference between vsf and gen. I’ve been staring at vids of both gen and rep for the last few days.

It's actually not just the thinness or taper. The finishing is different. It's not sharp, but more soft and rounded, similar to ARF's Datejusts a few iterations back.

 

[MarkMarky]

Absolutely right! In 1985 a Rolex GMT cost 700 bucks. 700 Bucks in 2020 is about 1700. The rip off is crazy.

I don't want to derail this thread but you need to educate yourself little bit before paying such blanket statements and not understanding about economics. You are so far off I don't feel to reply to your point.

On other hand, it's not only Rolex. Imagine today Rolex GMT costs $1700 ( as you said), where would that keep other watches like Omega, Tudor(which is half of Rolex), Breitling and mid-tier brands like Tag, FC, Raymond Weil and then finally where would microbrands be? What about Seikos? It's the chain. In today's market Rolex is a bargain, that's why folks are ready to pay over retail price to get one. Think a little!

 

[rcom440]

Also pics of those 2 gens are so distorted. Look at the bezel. Look how narrow bezel teeth look like.

 

[Duckber]

Also pics of those 2 gens are so distorted. Look at the bezel. Look how narrow bezel teeth look like.

Distorted? Hmm

Doesn't look distorted to me, don't see why it would be either. Looks like lighting. But here's the full photo, let users be the judge.

 

[Arik dahan]

Here's something I put together to show what I'm talking about. Lugs are clearly a huge difference once you actually compare them.

I'd like to think that I wouldn't have to say which is the rep and which is the gen. But, pictures, from the top, #1 and #3 is VSF, and #2 and #4 is gen.

This is what I've been saying from day one.

The gen starts out a bit wider and ends a bit narrower. The taper is more definitive. The finishing of the lugs on the Rolex are sharp and not soft and rounded like they are on VSF. To me, this is a clear difference and is actually a major tell for the watch.

Now, before the VSF police come and say various random things:

No, focal length does not do this drastic of a difference in change of shape. No gen would ever look like VSF under the same focal conditions. Not to mention various TDs already mentioned this is reality and people who have seen the gen and VSF together in person said it's an actual thing in person.

No, this doesn't mean I think this is a garbage rep and that it has to equal gen in order to be worn and blah blah blah. It's a good rep, it's still a good purchase, I'm simply stating that it's not as on par as their previous work but it's still a good piece. However, if you don't care for the clone movement, and only care for aesthetics, the green factory subs are superior in this regard.

It's all a matter of angle of photography and how the strip is laid..maybe there is a difference but it is really not noticeable ..
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