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mnkoshka

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George reportedly died in a car crash around 2010 according to BK
He owed us both money but I imagine Bert a lot more than me. I used to forward watches within Eu for him. A shame tc is still not here as he picked up all the tooling etc from Wm9 and improved all the details over time including some tt stuff.


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Omg that’s terrible news about George I’m sorry to hear that. It’s Interesting to know TC started up with His tooling, those guys brought such a good service to us all here I wish they were still around. Thanks for sharing


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Omg that’s terrible news about George I’m sorry to hear that. It’s Interesting to know TC started up with His tooling, those guys brought such a good service to us all here I wish they were still around. Thanks for sharing


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Apparantly in his Lamborghini from what I heard.

Here is a post I was able to find over at RWG quoting BK about the incident:

BK's version quoted:





I just came back from a 2 week trip to China and Hong Kong. Thanks to TC, I met a representative from the company that bought out wm9. According to the rep, wm9 was owned by the Ku's family and another partner. The Ku's family is mainly the father and the son. Some other family members also worked there. Roger Ku was the father who's also the designer and master watchmaker. Wm9 George told me on Jan 1, 2010 Roger Ku passed away on Dec 20th. The last email I got from George was June 9, 2010. The rep I met told me the young Ku, the son, died in a car crash around June 2010. The rep remembered the young Ku was a stylish man, loved to drive fast, crashed his Lamborghini and died around June 2010. Was George the son? I have no way to confirm it because I never asked George's last name and the rep doesn't know the young Ku's English name. I can't help but feel a sense of loss. It's one thing George stopped emailing me since June 2010. It's another thing to think of him dead. I seriously hope George is not the son. He's just somewhere on a beach, sipping a Mai Tai. I anyhow feel bad the Ku's were gone.



When the Ku's were alive, they split the market with their partner like this: the partner took Asia and the Ku's took the rest of the world. So wm9 was a brand that belonged to the Ku's. All in all, it's one company that made all the watches. When I was reselling for wm9, George told me not to sell to Asia. I now understand why.



With the Ku's gone, the remaining partner bought out the whole company. I tried to call the current company the new wm9. That's not quite appropriate because the owner was never part of wm9 even it's the same company/factory that made the wm9 watches and makes the current TC subs



Added 5/17/2012: I forgot about this. On April 25, 2010, on explaining why so much delay in shipping my components, George wrote "My cousin Allan was poisoned by carbon monoxide on Mar 27. He hasn't wake up since the accident and is like a vegetable since. We're the only two family members in this business. So, I have to take care of his part as well". Allan was the one who took care of shipping things. When I talked to the rep of the current company, I asked if the young Ku had a cousin that was poisoned by carbon monoxide, he said yes immediately. Said he's still in a vegetative state. I hate so much to accept George was the young Ku. But all the data seems to point to one conclusion.



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Yes I remember reading this sometime ago, thanks for the find. So TC bought the tooling and now manufactures under the brand ginault


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I’ve been waiting for the bicolour blue version with vs3135 and wrapped gold, with correct blue and gold Color. I hope it will be released soon.
 

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If it has wrapped midlink sides, we’ll all be buying one (or two!). If it doesn’t, they will not sell as many! You listening Mr VSF?
 
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Unfortunately I can’t find it, I think it was linked to the original watchmaker9 website by George. I think he disappeared with peoples money and didn’t fill all his orders in the end. The site info detailed the process on how the 14k Gold was wrapped. Onto the mid links. As membrelli mentioned there was a few guys using these bracelets back in 2009 onwards for a few years.


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Thanks for trying! Can you recall the website link as we can use waybackmachine and such to perhaps get a glimpse?
thank you.
 

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Crystal and date wheel is better on the VSF. But with gen DW and crystal, ARF V3 is better.

Do you know if its possible to modify the gen DW and crystal at the A2824 or is it only at the SH3135 Version?
 

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Vsf just released the 116613LB, also two version will be released.

The entry version priced at 468$ and the expensive version priced at 728$ which is made by order
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Hey brother, can you recommend a TD that is confirming the $728 version? My two TD’s have yet to confirm with me and I’m definitely leaning towards the more expensive version. I may need to reach out to the TD that’s confirming this.


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