Tudor Submariner Japanese Market Builds and how they stack up to RWI Builds

[Superdoedoe]

HI everyone.

I'm hoping the experts on RWI are able to tell me how the Japanese Tudor Subs i see for sale stack up to the ones on RWI?

I've added a picture of two different Subs i found on their auction site.

https://buyee.jp/item/yahoo/auction/h1112369354

 

[dax007]

I wish i was an expert, but i did hit the TRANSLATE button on the web page you provided.. They clearly stated "CUSTOM PIECE with aftermarket parts", however they confirmed the movement in GEN 50yrs old.. I been researching rep tudors for about a month.. To get the best IMHOP you need a vietnam spec parts for this build dial, case, etc.. Seems EU and UK have built some nice ones....

The JFK company "reps" look way off(cost entire watch only 300), but the vietnam spec parts from Raffles and others look dam good! As for the gen movments-- it would sure be nice to have a Franken Tudor 9410 with GEN MOVMEENT since they can be found pretty easy reasonable but then again prob need to spend 200$+ on servicing the movment...

Yodog makes a beautful vietnam spec tudor snowflake!

 

[Superdoedoe]

I wish i was an expert, but i did hit the TRANSLATE button on the web page you provided.. They clearly stated "CUSTOM PIECE with aftermarket parts", however they confirmed the movement in GEN 50yrs old.. I been researching rep tudors for about a month.. To get the best IMHOP you need a vietnam spec parts for this build dial, case, etc.. Seems EU and UK have built some nice ones....

The JFK company "reps" look way off(cost entire watch only 300), but the vietnam spec parts from Raffles and others look dam good! As for the gen movments-- it would sure be nice to have a Franken Tudor 9410 with GEN MOVMEENT since they can be found pretty easy reasonable but then again prob need to spend 200$+ on servicing the movment...

Yodog makes a beautful vietnam spec tudor snowflake!

No Shortage of them available either and for the prices they go for they must just be buying cheap parts somewhere but what baffles me is that isn't normally something i'd expect.

https://buyee.jp/item/search/category/2084303672?sort=bids&order=a&aucmaxprice=200000&page=1

 

[bigtiddygothgf]

I wish i was an expert, but i did hit the TRANSLATE button on the web page you provided.. They clearly stated "CUSTOM PIECE with aftermarket parts", however they confirmed the movement in GEN 50yrs old.. I been researching rep tudors for about a month.. To get the best IMHOP you need a vietnam spec parts for this build dial, case, etc.. Seems EU and UK have built some nice ones....

The JFK company "reps" look way off(cost entire watch only 300), but the vietnam spec parts from Raffles and others look dam good! As for the gen movments-- it would sure be nice to have a Franken Tudor 9410 with GEN MOVMEENT since they can be found pretty easy reasonable but then again prob need to spend 200$+ on servicing the movment...

Yodog makes a beautful vietnam spec tudor snowflake!

Just to clarify Raffles parts are not Vietnamese and are often quite inaccurate. Certain handsets are good but the rest is usually pretty far off from the VN mark. Ruby, Phong and MQ are the three 'main' VN sellers, but there are two or three on Ebay as well iirc.

 

[Reaps]

I would still take a RWI build. Why? Because you KNOW where you getting your parts from, builders here are trustworthy and knowledgable and have a good reputation....

Not to knock on these Japanese dudes but we dont know about where they source parts from, what they do to it, etc.

 

[bigtiddygothgf]

I would still take a RWI build. Why? Because you KNOW where you getting your parts from, builders here are trustworthy and knowledgable and have a good reputation....

Not to knock on these Japanese dudes but we dont know about where they source parts from, what they do to it, etc.

Was in process of typing out the same sentiment. These look a lot like bivintagestore parts which arent inherently bad, quite a few people here use them, but who knows what the movement situation actually is. Better off just building one yourself or having someone here do it. For that price the bezel inserts should be better and the lume pips should at the very least be the correct vintage style ones too imo.

 

[Rx4Time]

I'd rather a new ETA movement in my build with known parts suppliers.

 

[Superdoedoe]

Was in process of typing out the same sentiment. These look a lot like bivintagestore parts which arent inherently bad, quite a few people here use them, but who knows what the movement situation actually is. Better off just building one yourself or having someone here do it. For that price the bezel inserts should be better and the lume pips should at the very least be the correct vintage style ones too imo.

Thanks!
I'll check out his store!

 

[Superdoedoe]

Thoughts on the below build?

Viet Tudor Case- $400
Viet Dial- $150
Viet hands- $65
SW200- $55
Raffles insert- $20
Raffles stamped Tudor bracelet- $45
Total: $735

 

[Rx4Time]

Where did you get a sw200 for $55? The insert pearl looks significantly better than the linked ones.

 

[dax007]

Just to clarify Raffles parts are not Vietnamese and are often quite inaccurate. Certain handsets are good but the rest is usually pretty far off from the VN mark. Ruby, Phong and MQ are the three 'main' VN sellers, but there are two or three on Ebay as well iirc.

GREAT INFO!! Thank you very much! Ever since i been logged into Raffles i am like a kid in the candy store! This is very very good to know!

 

[dax007]

Thanks!
I'll check out his store!

I spoke with that gent from ebay store and he offer and would use a 2824 movmeent for the 9401..( i was thinkning maybe thats raffles ebay store?). I ended up just going to my reliable source Yodog! He is working on one for me!

 

[est4129]

For those prices you could buy the parts from bivintagestore, have a modder get the crownguards and lugs looking good (the biggest problem with those cases), and possibly use a gen crown. This would result in a much better looking watch.

 

[Superdoedoe]

I spoke with that gent from ebay store and he offer and would use a 2824 movmeent for the 9401..( i was thinkning maybe thats raffles ebay store?). I ended up just going to my reliable source Yodog! He is working on one for me!

Nice!
How much total roughly?

 

[Superdoedoe]

Where did you get a sw200 for $55? The insert pearl looks significantly better than the linked ones.

It’s the build in that same pic. It’s for sale. Pricing is just his breakdown

 

[Superdoedoe]

For those prices you could buy the parts from bivintagestore, have a modder get the crownguards and lugs looking good (the biggest problem with those cases), and possibly use a gen crown. This would result in a much better looking watch.

Much better looking than the most recent one I linked or the Japanese ones?

 

[dax007]

Well the GENT on feebay never got back with me... Yodogs run around 1500$ just depends on what bracelet he adds or if you have a special request.. mine was about 1500!

Nice!
How much total roughly?

 

[est4129]

Much better looking than the most recent one I linked or the Japanese ones?

The Japanese ones

 

[Singapore9]

The Japan reps, despite some of them looking pretty good and often using ETAs, always seem to have the worst bezel pips! It's just weird. Really annoys me when they're usually charging around a grand for the watches and won't add a 20 buck acrylic pip.

 

[Singapore9]

@Superdoedoe have you seen @HawkZero 's sales post for his 7021 and 9411x2? Looks like he has one of the 9411s left. Way better than the Japanese market stuff, especially when you consider the GEN movements.

If you're in the market for one: https://forum.replica-watch.info/th...shed-viet-cases.10958155/page-2#post-11506399