i am leaning towards the topgun at the moment because the incorrect datewheel on the 3717 is a tell, but im not too sure of the flaws on the topgun v1 superlume version.. which is closer to gen?
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topgun or 3717??
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Top Gun is closest to Gen IMO. but for long term wear, i'd say the 3717 holds up better as the PVD coating on the TopGun tends to get scratched/smudged easily, at least in my case. 
the 3717 doesnt have superlume and the datewheel is wrong right?Top Gun is closest to Gen IMO. but for long term wear, i'd say the 3717 holds up better as the PVD coating on the TopGun tends to get scratched/smudged easily, at least in my case.
randychuah must have the pvd cheapy-gun!
Because my TG is made of ceramic. So there is no scratch issue possible!
Regards
Because my TG is made of ceramic. So there is no scratch issue possible!
Regards
you can upgrade the DW on the 3717 to ETA wheel and have it lumed. Then it'll be a better watch than the TG!
Take both, 2 very different watches. The 3717 is dressy, the TG sporty. If your into IWC's both are a must have. Take the ceramic TG, light and not so scratchy.
Which TG are you thinking of: 43 or 46 mm?
Which TG are you thinking of: 43 or 46 mm?
is there a 43mm???? can u show me the link to the best version available? is it this 1?? the 44mm, not into the doppel version with faux pusher...
http://www.yourtrustytime.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=30_191&products_id=3420
http://www.1-pc8838.com/iwp10001-3789-pilot-chrono-cernyb-p-10586.html
You are right: it's 44 mm. All the TD's have the same models, for example:
http://www.puretimewatch.com/product/top-gun-chronograph-full-ceramic-v2/
I have the 46 mm double chrono and very happy with it, more watch and wrist-presence.
Alas, right now my favourite is the 3717 on black crock strap.
It really depends on how well it looks on your wrist. Top Gun being a larger and thicker watch than 3717 so you need at least 6.7-7" wrist diameter to pull it off. The TG doppelchrono rep is even larger than the single chrono version so make sure you have the wrist size to accommodate a larger watch.
Speaking of out of box accuracy, my pick is the Top Gun. It is that good.
It really depends on how well it looks on your wrist. Top Gun being a larger and thicker watch than 3717 so you need at least 6.7-7" wrist diameter to pull it off. The TG doppelchrono rep is even larger than the single chrono version so make sure you have the wrist size to accommodate a larger watch.
Speaking of out of box accuracy, my pick is the Top Gun. It is that good.
assuming im to go with one of taka's mod, which is a lower cost option to mod to make it more gen like?? the top gun only has to change the glass right? whereas the 3717 has to change the lume, glass, datewheel..
Top Gun is closest to Gen IMO. but for long term wear, i'd say the 3717 holds up better as the PVD coating on the TopGun tends to get scratched/smudged easily, at least in my case.
I have a Topgun (V2) and compared it with the real one at the AD's shop window. Used a polish cloth to make the pushers and crown less grey and now they look just like the real ones. Believe me besides the Top Gun logo that is not grey enough it is very hard to define it as a rep.
I think this is one of the best reps I know and I have several super reps.
Among them is the 3717 and however it is very near to the real one and has a super good AR (probably improved it since they started to produce).
there are some tells. One of them is the bracelet that seems to have the angels of the blocks more rounded. Now to the scratches. I am sure the watch is full ceramic (even passed the safety check at the airport without letting the metal detector beep). The watch is one of my daily beaters but it looks still like new. No scratches whatever and I had several incidents that would have made damages to other watches. I have worn brand watches out of a 200 euro price range and they looked beaten up after wearing it as long as this Top Gun. The strap also still looks like and I never expected it to be of such a good quality. Some time ago when the Top Gun was still being sold I read reviews on the IWC website and there several complaint the ceramic was broken. Well i dropped mine, abused it (by accident) several times but my Chinese Top Gun is still in great condition.