I would be careful????? If you lookk at all the replys since this thread started this morning you will see that other members have paid this guy via paypal. I take VERY SERIOUSLY ANYONE TRYING TO "GANKED" members of this Forum, DO YOU TAKE THAT SERIOUS AS WELL, or are you just concrened with havinf the back of the dealers?
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TIME4DIRECT TO DO BUSINESS WITH OR NOT?????
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outoftime said:
I've answered this question from you more than once, OOT. Quite frankly it's getting tiring, in addition to insulting.
Do a little search on "Little White Lies" and the whole JAndrewgate situation of a few months ago.
I've said it before, and I'll shout it from the mountain tops: THIS FORUM DOES MORE TO PROTECT THE MEMBERS/PARTICIPANTS IN THIS HOBBY THAN ANY OTHER REP FORUM.
I challenge anyone to prove me wrong.
I put in too much work on policing this forum, without any form of compensation or reward, to have my integrity called into question by a member who has half of his total posts in this thread. The same goes for the rest of the staff here.
I can point to specific things I've done or been a part of that have made this forum better and safer, can you?
I see no evidence of members getting "ganked". What I do see is you throwing a temper-tantrum about not being able to pay by PayPal.
We've already said we're looking into the details of this and will act accordingly.
outoftime said:
We are concerned with facts.. once we hear from T4D, we will have both side of the story... but I would say, after seeing your tone, spelling, use of cap locks, etc in this thread why someone could be deterred from doing business with you...
As for the question of whether T4D is still taking paypal from the community at large, we have asked him and are waiting for an answer.... till then, this discussion is going nowhere...
If T4D is not taking paypal anymore then he will have to change his policies to reflect that...
What excuses? The dealer doesn't need an excuse to not accept PayPal from you. Honestly, your behavior here today is doing nothing but justify that decision on T4D's part.
*IF* it is a change in policy and he no longer accepts PayPal, we will make him change his information. *IF* it is a change in policy and he will only accept PayPal from certain members, we will make him change his information. *IF* you are a one-off exception and he simply got bad vibes from you, there is nothing for the staff to do.
*IF* it is a change in policy and he no longer accepts PayPal, we will make him change his information. *IF* it is a change in policy and he will only accept PayPal from certain members, we will make him change his information. *IF* you are a one-off exception and he simply got bad vibes from you, there is nothing for the staff to do.
I have told you that I had a flawless transaction with Time4Direct. This is the truth not an excuse. I object to the fact you think it is anything else. I would use him again in a heartbeat. By the tone of your postings there is more going on here.
Is it posible that the other members paid with paypal before he had an issue that may have stopped him from excepting it? Try and relax a bit here, until you have an answer.outoftime said:
Yes it's something going on here. He's playing games and to be a new dealer and on probation. Seems fishy to me.midasmook said:
Most members seem to grasp this concept, I'm not certain why you are having trouble with it. My guess is that it is willful misunderstanding, but that's just a guess.
A probationary dealer here, simply means that this dealer is not proven HERE. As such, there is an increased level of risk, as they haven't proven themselves HERE. That doesn't mean the dealer is a scammer, or is new to rep selling.
Let's not lose sight of one very important fact: YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SCAMMED. You haven't paid any money to anyone. You're simply pitching a fit because you can't pay how you want.
That is not a scam.
A probationary dealer here, simply means that this dealer is not proven HERE. As such, there is an increased level of risk, as they haven't proven themselves HERE. That doesn't mean the dealer is a scammer, or is new to rep selling.
Let's not lose sight of one very important fact: YOU HAVE NOT BEEN SCAMMED. You haven't paid any money to anyone. You're simply pitching a fit because you can't pay how you want.
That is not a scam.
you are right i have not been scammed, but to say that you accept paypal and then when i am ready to buy and you tell me you dont accept paypal, THAT"S MISLEADING AND IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE! so if you will lie about something as small as this, you will take the next step and lie even further. Especially since people have responded and CLEARLY STATED that they paid him via PAYPAL. I am done talking about this situation. No matter how you respond anyone looking at ths thread will come to a quick resolve!
OOT: I think at this point everyone sympathizes with you. What happened is indeed tragic and hopefully you'll raise above it. Good luck on this one, as tough as it may be...
he was definitely stung... i know he was not accepting paypal last week when i tried to buy something myself... but i thought it was a short-term problem...
it may or may not be a long-term one...
it may or may not be a long-term one...
Unbelievable. I tell a guy that paypal is not available and he starts whimpering and like a child says I am going to tell everyone ! Tell them what that I can't offer paypal? Hardly a hanging offense
What is rude about this"Hello paypal is not a payment option sorry Moneybookers or moneygram or direct bank transfer are only payment options at this time Robert"
Disappointing maybe but hardly worth the 7-8 emails after . If my terms of payment don't suit find a dealer that has what you want I am at a loss as to why he would need to make all this fuss. It maybe worth mentioning as well that he is not alone in this he is being given the bullets to fire by someone else for whatever reason here is an extract that the OP forgot to include in his overview of the email correspondence
"Marlon this guy's, attitude sucks, yet he wants business form members of the dark side, but then only wants it his way, even though he mentions that he accepts paypal on the forum. This guy is a newbie on the forum and in the probation area, you should definitely let the forum know. Any rep buyer will tell you that as soon as you realize that the seller won't accept credit cards or paypal you now there will be a problem, it's a definite NO NO. I asked this guy about the Bell and Ross watches(BR01-92 and the BR01-97) and he did even answer my questions. Some of these guys in Asia or so arrogant when they get on these forums it amazes me. "
This is from God knows who to Marlon
Further to this I have another half a dozen emails even one of a transaction with "The big watch company" that went wrong what that has to do with me is a mystery . If you think this is rational and adult behavior then I am wrong myself I am of the impression it's a tantrum from a person who doesn't really grasp the concept of this not being a 100% legal industry.
What is rude about this"Hello paypal is not a payment option sorry Moneybookers or moneygram or direct bank transfer are only payment options at this time Robert"
Disappointing maybe but hardly worth the 7-8 emails after . If my terms of payment don't suit find a dealer that has what you want I am at a loss as to why he would need to make all this fuss. It maybe worth mentioning as well that he is not alone in this he is being given the bullets to fire by someone else for whatever reason here is an extract that the OP forgot to include in his overview of the email correspondence
"Marlon this guy's, attitude sucks, yet he wants business form members of the dark side, but then only wants it his way, even though he mentions that he accepts paypal on the forum. This guy is a newbie on the forum and in the probation area, you should definitely let the forum know. Any rep buyer will tell you that as soon as you realize that the seller won't accept credit cards or paypal you now there will be a problem, it's a definite NO NO. I asked this guy about the Bell and Ross watches(BR01-92 and the BR01-97) and he did even answer my questions. Some of these guys in Asia or so arrogant when they get on these forums it amazes me. "
This is from God knows who to Marlon
Further to this I have another half a dozen emails even one of a transaction with "The big watch company" that went wrong what that has to do with me is a mystery . If you think this is rational and adult behavior then I am wrong myself I am of the impression it's a tantrum from a person who doesn't really grasp the concept of this not being a 100% legal industry.
then there's the answer....
Robert, please change your terms and conditions to reflect the change....
Robert, please change your terms and conditions to reflect the change....