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The wait is over! DLC BB is here.
- Thread starter robinstyler
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Black Bay steel will be a beauty. Hope they rep that. Also waiting on the Steel and Gold. Gen is gold wrapped so they should be able to rep it quite nicely!
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I think @seemeMatt ordered. Maybe he received it already and can post some pics and give feedback
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Oye I have to sell a rep now to get this. Damn this hobby...its a vicious cycle.
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Waiting for v2 though. Sounds like there are some kinks to work out.
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No offence but its so bad i dont think anyone on this forum would buy it.
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It might be the worst tudor rep yet haha. Usually all Tudors are repped really nicely. They probably didnt have the gen to rep from
Yes i think it IS the worst Tudor rep in recent history.
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Yes not a great rep maybe but you should have a look to grandtour models and also the blue snowflake
Ha I knew someone would say this.Yes not a great rep maybe but you should have a look to grandtour models and also the blue snowflake
Well I guess youre right but no factory was ever really interested in making an amazing rep of a vintage model.
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Um, guys . . .
DLC (Diamond Like Carbon) is a coating applied by PVD (Positive Vapor Deposition) which is the process. PVD can be used to apply DLC, stainless steel, titanium, ceramic and even gold as well as many other coatings. DLC can be applied in many colour variations from deep black to an almost white grey as well as varying surface textures.
Common misconception. People think DLC and PVD are different but they're not. The process Physical Vapor Deposition came out first obviously and so anything that was processed using that process was termed "PVD coated" with varying degrees of hardness and color depending on the composition of the coating used (as well as the base metal). Later on a very durable coating composed of carbon, titanium and oxygen called DLC or Diamond Like Carbon was developed and proved to be very popular that materials using this coating were distinguished from other coatings applied by the same process by using the coating name, instead of the process that applied it.
It is possible. It all has to do with the preparation of the base metal. If the metal is polished, then the resulting coat will look polished. If you want to make it look like the gen's matte finish, the base metal has to be brushed before the coating is applied.
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You guys are right.
Did some digging, and found the following official rationale behind a non-DLC (what I previously referred to as "PVD") coating on the BBD and the reason is in fact unrelated to finish:
Tudor chose TiC (Titanium carbide) for the treatment, because, says Sven Olsen, the UK General Manager: “It has been found to be very hard – ten times harder than steel – but less brittle than DLC. This is important on Tudor divers’ watches as pressure can distort a case and cause issues with coatings coming free.”
There you have it, from the General Manager of Tudor.
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Sadly, I think this is the real problem. I've emailed Chazing and PT and both told me the sides of the case are glossy. I'm very interested to see *how* glossy when someone buys one of these.
With their move to an in house movement, the B.B. cases gained a couple of mm’s thickness.
This model is listed at 11mm thick - same as the rose dial ETA versions of the B.B. I think they’ve literally just pvd’d the old case stock with no additional work, which would explain the polish.
IMO the best configuration of the B.B. is the rose dial - the thickness suits the aesthetic so much better. Tried on an in house gen and it just felt too tall. At least for the situations I’d see my self wearing it in.
Shame the rose was never fixed before they moved on to repping the shield logo, HR’s dial is way better so it’s possible - IMO fixing this would be a much better way to get use out of the thinner case stock than this half arsed paint job.
This model is listed at 11mm thick - same as the rose dial ETA versions of the B.B. I think they’ve literally just pvd’d the old case stock with no additional work, which would explain the polish.
IMO the best configuration of the B.B. is the rose dial - the thickness suits the aesthetic so much better. Tried on an in house gen and it just felt too tall. At least for the situations I’d see my self wearing it in.
Shame the rose was never fixed before they moved on to repping the shield logo, HR’s dial is way better so it’s possible - IMO fixing this would be a much better way to get use out of the thinner case stock than this half arsed paint job.
The thickness listed by the TD's is wrong. They dont even bother to check the thickness. You can easily see it is thicker than the other BB's by just looking at the pics. on intime for example. So it has the same thickness as the genuine. It even says 11mm same thickness as gen for the other shield dial tudors when in fact that is wrong too as I have one from ZF and it is thicker than the rose logo version
The cheap factories that supply Jason007 on DHGate managed a matt coating. $128 for comparison. Other sellers have it under $100, will post more pics when I get them.
