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ALE7575

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A feeling that the paint from the PAM359 came to PAM312, probably at the factory love to save on "small things".
But in this case it is not appropriate and spoil the whole picture of 312.

PAM 312 KW was released before PAM 359 KW
Just FYI
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Some clarifications are required

The overall most accurate?
PAM 029 Noob, PAM 292 J Noob

The most accurate in the wrist? (Not in the hand. List increases a lot)
PAM 111-176-177-127-217-029-356-390-088-243 Noob, PAM 292 J noob, PAM 312 KW, PAM 388 KW, PAM 288 H maker

The most gen-like feel appearance?
PAM 417 KW, PAM 388 KW, PAM 312 KW, PAM 346 KW, PAM 359 KW, PAM 505-504 KW, PAM 029 Noob, PAM 243 Noob, PAM 390 Noob, PAM 292 J Noob

The nicest one? (this is a taste matter)
PAM 390, PAM 253, PAM 388, PAM 346, PAM 417, PAM 359, PAM 312, PAM 088

I know this is a big list, but I cannot reduce it

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Wow!! Great List I ever seen. Thank you ALE. I need this list everyday night.
 

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You are really exaggerating my friends !!


Below the list of my current preferred PAMs ordered by types - August 2014
I write the date because the list is always changing

RECOMMENDED PAM REPS - AUGUST 2014

Luminor Base

PAM 390 Noob

Luminor Marina
PAM 417-416-411 KW
PAM 111 Noob V3

GMT
PAM 088 Noob O-series
PAM 029 Noob V2
PAM 297 Noob O-series

Titanium
PAM 177-176 Noob

Black DLC
PAM 026 Noob

White dial
PAM 113 H maker or better new Noob version

Special Series
PAM 417-411-416 KW

Automatic
PAM 104 Noob O-series
PAM 299 Noob O-series

Power Reserve
PAM 057 DSN
PAM 027 DSN

LUMINOR 1950
PAM 312 KW
PAM 127 Noob
PAM 359 KW

CHRONOS
PAM 253 H maker
PAM 356 Noob
PAM 326 Noob

SUB
PAM 243 Noob
PAM 364 Noob (pending final evaluation)

Radiomir
PAM 288 H maker
PAM 388 KW
PAM 505 KW
PAM 346 KW
PAM 380 H maker
PAM 292 J Noob
PAM 448 Clone

I hope that helps
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My vote goes with the 359 & 511 based on personal preference and watch appeal to me. 511 is most certainly not accurate yet of course!
 

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Why does 000 not make the list? I was thinking of this as my next PAM.
 

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Why does 000 not make the list? I was thinking of this as my next PAM.

PAM 000 and PAM 005 are voluntarily removed from the list by myself
It is a “technical taste” matter

We all liked sausage dials many time ago, but nowadays the level of current reps is very high and we knows now much more about the flaws than some years ago. The more I study the structure of reps sausage dials the less I like them. It is not a matter of fonts or thickness inaccuracies, although it is existent some times, but a matter of lume structure

As above said the main problem of REP sausage dials is not font accuracy, is the own structure of application of the lume material
Rep makers are using, from the beginning, a completely different structure of lume material application. Therefore rep sausage dials can be never accurate.

Gen sausage dial is not at all sausage shaped: the dial surface has a deep cavity with upper edges clearly rounded and the lume material is applied filling that cavity, but the lume material remains always flat and a bit under the dial surface.
Rep sausage dial has a less deep cavity with less evident rounded upper edges and the lume material is applied raising the dial surface and with a clear "sausage" shape. More or less like showed in below pic.

SAUSAGELUMESTRUCTUREdetailGEN-REPCOMPARISONcopiar_zps71286f01.jpg


Below pics, show clearly all above said. See the important differences (GEN I don't remember the source, REP is from Bozz)

SAUSAGELUMESTRUCTUREGEN-REPCOMPARISONcopiar_zpsb3d63435.jpg


Some time ago I liked rep PAM sausage dials, nowadays, after studying a little the matter I'm more and more disappointed by them. Indeed I never recommend these Super reps like 005 and 000 due to this inaccurate structure of the lume. But this is a taste matter as always. PAM 390 and PAM Boutique (417, 416....) are almost the same, but, although they have similar flaws, the sausage is a bit flatter for some reason, sausage is less evident, and these watches have other attractions like coloured lume, PIG logo, coloured dial..etc... you are no focussing the attraction in the lume. See the fantastic pics by Klockis in our review made in cooperation for PAM Boutique:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pcteam-pam-boutique-145665?t=145665
you can realize in lume structure Section that the lume application is not exact as gen but is better than in PAM 000 and PAM 005 above showed.

I prefer a flaw in the movement better than a flaw in the dial (we are accepting everyday very inaccurate decorated movements). I repeat this is a taste matter .

But I respect all opinions and many sausage reps are indeed awesome
Above said is just my thoughts

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Wow, ALE, thank you so much for the explanation! Very much appreciated!
 

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Damn ALE, you are crazy! Thanks for sharing this list and all these informations. This section wouldn't be half of what it is if you weren't around.
 

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LOL
Thanks
Glad to be helpful
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Ale great work! The 029 will be here shortly! Debating on whether or not I should opt for the selitta 240 or to just stick with the 2836-2. By the way, has anyone ever fitted a SS bracelet to an 029? I know you're not a big fan of them but I've had a SS bracelet on every watch I've owned. Preferably this would come with polished center links but I can't find a damn thing!
 

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Some clarifications are required

The overall most accurate?
PAM 029 Noob, PAM 292 J Noob

The most accurate in the wrist? (Not in the hand. List increases a lot)
PAM 111-176-177-127-217-029-356-390-088-243 Noob, PAM 292 J noob, PAM 312 KW, PAM 388 KW, PAM 288 H maker

The most gen-like feel appearance?
PAM 417 KW, PAM 388 KW, PAM 312 KW, PAM 346 KW, PAM 359 KW, PAM 505-504 KW, PAM 029 Noob, PAM 243 Noob, PAM 390 Noob, PAM 292 J Noob

The nicest one? (this is a taste matter)
PAM 390, PAM 253, PAM 388, PAM 346, PAM 417, PAM 359, PAM 312, PAM 088

I know this is a big list, but I cannot reduce it

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How bout Pam364 Noob ? Many has said that its quality near Pam243

Btw here's my Pam390 Noob , best in my collection i think

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I must be the only person here who dislikes ALE. He's the reason I own a 390, 088 and on the lookout for a 029 and 292J lol. :p

Awesome stuff, always looking forward to read your latest comments!
 

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You are really exaggerating my friends !!


Below the list of my current preferred PAMs ordered by types - August 2014
I write the date because the list is always changing

I hope that helps
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Great list! Thank you ALE!! For Noobs, like myself, I have taken the liberty of copying your list below, and attaching pictures so we can know which models are which.

RECOMMENDED PAM REPS - AUGUST 2014 (courtesy of ALE)

Luminor Base

PAM 390 Noob
PAM390copiar.jpg


Luminor Marina
PAM 417-416-411 KW
PAM411-420-finalcopiar.jpg

TRASERASDEBOUTIQUEMODELS-defi-copiar.jpg


PAM 111 Noob V3
PAM111-deficopiar.jpg


GMT
PAM 088 Noob O-series
PAM088-deficopiar.jpg


PAM 029 Noob V2
PAM029-deficopiar.jpg


PAM 297 Noob O-series
PAM297copiar.jpg


Titanium
PAM 177-176 Noob
PAM176-deficopiar.jpg

PAM177-deficopiar.jpg


Black DLC
PAM 026 Noob
PAM026-defi-finalcopiar.jpg


White dial
PAM 113 H maker or better new Noob version
PAM113-deficopiar.jpg


Special Series
PAM 417-411-416 KW
PAM411-420-finalcopiar.jpg

TRASERASDEBOUTIQUEMODELS-defi-copiar.jpg


Automatic
PAM 104 Noob O-series
PAM104-definitivecopiar.jpg


PAM 299 Noob O-series
PAM299K-seriescopiar.jpg


Power Reserve
PAM 057 DSN
PAM057-finalcopiar.jpg


PAM 027 DSN
PAM027-deficopiar.jpg


LUMINOR 1950
PAM 312 KW
PAM312-final-deficopiar.jpg


PAM 127 Noob
PAM127copiar.jpg


PAM 359 KW
PAM359-v2copiar_zps06d1f408.jpg


CHRONOS
PAM 253 H maker
PAM253-finalcopiar.jpg


PAM 356 Noob
PAM356-3copiar_zpsf779c4a4.jpg


PAM 326 Noob
PAM326copiar.jpg


SUB
PAM 243 Noob
PAM243copiar.jpg


PAM 364 Noob (pending final evaluation)
Panerai-PAM364-Luminor-Sub-Titanio-620x465.jpg


Radiomir
PAM 288 H maker
PAM288-deficopiar.jpg


PAM 388 KW
PAM388-v2copiar_zps8613ee5b.jpg


PAM 505 KW
PAM505-V4copiar_zpsc12ecd69.jpg


PAM 346 KW
PAM346copiar_zpsbcc7a1df.jpg


PAM 380 H maker
PAM380copiar.jpg


PAM 292 J Noob
PAM292-PVDcopiar.jpg


PAM 448 Clone
PAM448-CLONE2copiar_zps8d528cf2.jpg
 

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Thanks feloniousmonk
Really useful
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