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Something doesn't add up...

guanaco

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Just for that I'm going to buy the most expensive PAM out there and I'm going to attach THIS band to it:

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Plus I'm going to remove the original movement and I'm adding an Asian one, the cheapest I can find, I'll remove the original lume and apply crappy lume of a different color myself... too evil? :lol:
 

JohnnySac

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babola said:
Lack of availability and desirability of Dirk straps overshadows 'ristis urge to call and label it as a rep/fake.

7-8 years ago Dirk simply decided to use his know-how from the days of his employment under original OP, and by re-creating the "original" PAV styled straps, fill the void and lack of good quality straps that became evident soon after Vendome bought the OP company in '97.
One has to remember that he came out with his PAV straps "replicas" at the time when Panerai replica watches were nowhere to be seen, and the only ones available (first attempts you could by on Canal street at the time) were low quality low cost "watches" laughed at by both Paneristi enthusiasts and OP/Richemont, so no need for a concern over decent good replication of the original watches.

Dirk went on his own and started producing PAV straps lookalikes, using the same leather waterprofing Kodiak method original pre-V PAV straps of the early '90es came with. He also replicated 1:1 the pre-V bottle opener type sewn-in buckle from PAVs originals. The reason he stopped making these straps eventualy was simple and understandable - he was approached by OP/Richemont and asked to cease the production of so called Dirk PAV straps as it breached copyright and trademark rights. This actually happened roughly at the same time Guangzhou started churning out good quality Pam replicas and straps at an alarming rate, and it's no wonder OP/Richemont acted the way they did.
He obliged, thus avoiding a legal charge and potentialy expensive and tedious court proceedings that were to follow.

Dirk is a very approachable person, I advise anyone that wants to know/hear more about this from the horse's mouth to send him an email. His contact details can be found on Paneristi.com.

cheers,
babola


In other words THEY ARE REPLICAS!!!!
 

fakemaster

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Ok speaking of tires. I just saw a 57 Tbird sell for 20k less than it should have. The announcers said the reason why was because when the guy replced thetires, he put the 'wrong style' whitewalls on it. What the hell is wrong with people? They're freaking tires!
 

guanaco

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Some people will pay up to $2 Million for baseball cards... *sigh*... a watch or car is understandable in its own sense like a nice Patek Sky-Moon which is a modern marvel but a piece of printed cardboard? :|

:x

And for the record, screw Paneristis who are so anal they can't sleep over reps, their loss not ours. :lol:
 

hazbeen

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That T-Bird that went for significantly less had alot of minor issues. The tires were incorrect but that just triggered further examination. Non original paint color, bolt on continental spare (if we are talking about the same car) kit and other issues. A good driver but not a collector car. For the true collector, you would have had to start over with that car.

Cars are alot like watches, you can get similar functionality for far less money but the collector (watches or cars) are not buying functionality. Peace.
 

red71veloce

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Would it be correct to say that replacing a submariner "bracelet" with an aftermarket bracelet of a different style would be looked at as a mistake. While changing the leather "strap" on a pam or any other gen a bit more acceptable? Maybe I'm way off, but it just seems that changing straps with various quality aftermarket offerings are not frowned upon as much for any manufacture. There are for sure many more options in the "strap" market as opposed to "bracelets". Also, I have seen some gen subs with quality stingray and sharkskin straps that seemed to be accepted. Just curious what you guys think...Tracy
 

fakemaster

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hazbeen said:
That T-Bird that went for significantly less had alot of minor issues. The tires were incorrect but that just triggered further examination. Non original paint color, bolt on continental spare (if we are talking about the same car) kit and other issues. A good driver but not a collector car. For the true collector, you would have had to start over with that car.

Cars are alot like watches, you can get similar functionality for far less money but the collector (watches or cars) are not buying functionality. Peace.

And I thought I was the only one who watched that shit.

Red,
I say do what the hell you want and screw everyone's opinion. you're the one that has to wear it.