Selling reps on the board

[rooster133]

People should also be allowed to point out politely when such prices are ridiculous and why. Not in a PM to the seller. In the thread, openly.

I don't care how politely you try to get your point across, if you do this it is tread craping, and has no place in the sales section of the forum. Ulitmately the value of an item is not what you subjectively think it should be, but what someone is willing to pay for it - that is free enterprise!

Free enterprise is fine, but if you bring that up, then asymmetry of information should be dealt with too. The more freely information moves, the better the mechanics of trade, and prices find a natural level. That's how a good market should work. If you restrict information too much (e.g., by not allowing buyers to express their opinion about a price) you can have market failure. Willingness to pay is not an indication of price, and I never spoke of subjective value, but price levels. You're confusing the two. Value is subjective, yes. Monetary price is not. Pointing out ridiculous prices in threads is as much of a bad thing as consumer reports. I.e., it's not a bad thing.

 

[trevor2079]

Apparently I have been banned .... without ever have even signed up

Well if that doesn't prove that someone from repgeek is getting a reach around from Jandrew, I don't know what does....

 

[2poor4real1z]

D4M It might just be that you are making headway on the whole pricing thing, either that or you are scaring the sh*t out of them. Either way.. Much kudos!

 

[fakemaster]

DIE THREAD DIE!

 

[R2D4]

DIE THREAD DIE!

Fakie one thing is for sure, we are learning and I believe it is helping noobs to getting acquainted with the pros and cons of member to member sales. I see benefit here but I am watching it closely :wink:

 

[rmcraig]

If you restrict information too much (e.g., by not allowing buyers to express their opinion about a price) you can have market failure. Willingness to pay is not an indication of price, and I never spoke of subjective value, but price levels. You're confusing the two. Value is subjective, yes. Monetary price is not. Pointing out ridiculous prices in threads is as much of a bad thing as consumer reports. I.e., it's not a bad thing.

I don't care how you try to justify it, thread crapping is thread crapping. You sound like one of my kids throwing a tantrum because someone won't play the game by the rules you dreamed up. What's the matter, someone want to sell a watch you were interested in for a price you weren't willing to pay? Why don't you grow up and move on.

 

[rooster133]

If you restrict information too much (e.g., by not allowing buyers to express their opinion about a price) you can have market failure. Willingness to pay is not an indication of price, and I never spoke of subjective value, but price levels. You're confusing the two. Value is subjective, yes. Monetary price is not. Pointing out ridiculous prices in threads is as much of a bad thing as consumer reports. I.e., it's not a bad thing.

I don't care how you try to justify it, thread crapping is thread crapping. You sound like one of my kids throwing a tantrum because someone won't play the game by the rules you dreamed up. What's the matter, someone want to sell a watch you were interested in for a price you weren't willing to pay? Why don't you grow up and move on.

Oh, you're so right and I was so wrong. You really convinced me with your intelligent, persuasive and carefully thought-out argument. :roll:

 

[rawg]

+1 on rooster's opinion about chiming in on a sale (creative/constructive criticism of course). Also, a seller may believe it is thread crapping , another may not and that may go on and on and on (bec. that's human nature).

 

[swissaddict]

Another +1 on rooster's view. And if politely -- subtly -- indirectly -- chiming in about a price being way too high is thread-crapping, then maybe some thread-crapping is ok. It's in the best interest of the membership after all to protect our members.

 

[RWIGWH]

I think we should encourage any thread crapping relating to Lie's in a sales thread. If a seller posts a watch and makes outrageous claims IMO that is deceiving the buyer. Not everyone knows better, and I think it's the communities job to point out even a little white lie. Such as, Japan etched bezel. The phrase: "1:1" and so on. Yea it's a sales thread, and yea the seller can ask WTF ever he wants for his watch, no problem. Just don't deceive people while doing so. Not here! Leave that to the scam dealers.

 

[R2D4]

Craig and Rooster, keep it in the civil zone please, ok?

 

[rmcraig]

I think we should encourage any thread crapping relating to Lie's in a sales thread. If a seller posts a watch and makes outrageous claims IMO that is deceiving the buyer. Not everyone knows better, and I think it's the communities job to point out even a little white lie. Such as, Japan etched bezel. The phrase: "1:1" and so on. Yea it's a sales thread, and yea the seller can ask WTF ever he wants for his watch, no problem. Just don't deceive people while doing so. Not here! Leave that to the scam dealers.

The dscussion was about someone being able to establish the price on a watch they post for sale. Yes, I agree that descriptions of sale items should be realistic and reasonably accurate (void of intentional deception).

 

[seank]

Listen fellas. The last thing anyone wants is for some jerk load to chime in, in someone's sales thread to say "don't you think your (fill in the blank) is 25.00 too high?" That's ridiculous and rude. There is plenty of knowledge here to figure it out for yourself. What I have done in the past is dropped someone a friendly email telling them " hey you know you can this PAM111 or whatever fully modded for only 25.00 more from Angus". That to me is a much better approach than kicking a guy in his nut sack in his sales thread.





Sean K

 

[RWIGWH]

Listen fellas. The last thing anyone wants is for some jerk load to chime in, in someone's sales thread and saying don't you think your 25.00 too high. That's ridiculous and rude. There is plenty of knowledge here to figure it out for yourself. What I have done in the past is dropped someone a friendly email telling them " hey you know you can this PAM111 or whatever fully modded for only 25.00 more from Angus". That to me is a much better approach than kicking a guy in his nut sack in his sales thread.





Sean K

:lol: Lmfao000o

 

[rmcraig]

Oh, you're so right and I was so wrong. You really convinced me with your intelligent, persuasive and carefully thought-out argument. :roll:

Well, I can tell you are at least 12 years old since you understand, and utilize the concept of sarcasm. [smilie=boxing.gif]

 

[R2D4]

Oh, you're so right and I was so wrong. You really convinced me with your intelligent, persuasive and carefully thought-out argument. :roll:

Well, I can tell you are at least 12 years old since you understand, and utilize the concept of sarcasm. [smilie=boxing.gif]

Craig, Keep this civil please.

 

[rmcraig]

Listen fellas. The last thing anyone wants is for some jerk load to chime in, in someone's sales thread and saying don't you think your 25.00 too high. That's ridiculous and rude. There is plenty of knowledge here to figure it out for yourself. What I have done in the past is dropped someone a friendly email telling them " hey you know you can this PAM111 or whatever fully modded for only 25.00 more from Angus". That to me is a much better approach than kicking a guy in his nut sack in his sales thread.
Sean K

I whole heartedly agree. I share this sentiment. It may not be the words that I have been using, but it is the thought that I have been trying to get across.

 

[daytona4me]

I have simply post "PM sent re: price" in the thread and tell the seller that regardless of what he paid for it,, the price is too high given the current prices of the same rep if purchased new. If they want to have any chance of selling it, they should consider a lower price or possibly a trade (where selling price is not always the determining factor)

Why is it so hard to figure out the best way to handle something like this? (The best way is always my way 8) )

 

[R2D4]

DIE THREAD DIE

 

[RWIGWH]

I think we should encourage any thread crapping relating to Lie's in a sales thread. If a seller posts a watch and makes outrageous claims IMO that is deceiving the buyer. Not everyone knows better, and I think it's the communities job to point out even a little white lie. Such as, Japan etched bezel. The phrase: "1:1" and so on. Yea it's a sales thread, and yea the seller can ask WTF ever he wants for his watch, no problem. Just don't deceive people while doing so. Not here! Leave that to the scam dealers.

The dscussion was about someone being able to establish the price on a watch they post for sale. Yes, I agree that descriptions of sale items should be realistic and reasonably accurate (void of intentional deception).

Yes I realize this. Completely understood. I was making a different point that in my opinion is related to a degree. My point was, if you let the dealers deceive people, what stops the community from doing the same? The original post was a complaint of resale of a watch using the dealers price point or even higher in some cases. If we embrace BS as a community from a dealers sales thread, wtf is the difference if some jerk load decides to use similar tactics?
I.E.:Trustie/Asshat has it for 338 + 30 Shipping 368.00. Grab it now in conus for 360.00. It's a new watch. here is the link to trustie/asshats site with the watch.
This makes us no better than the dealers who we calling the cartel. What exactly makes us better?
Change is needed.