So guys, this is a noob sub, I have sourced the last 2 from lay at replicamake as he agreed to try to pick centered pearls, Mark at TS just is not as cooperative though his pricing can not be beat in the promo he has going, I dont know if it is a language barrier or what. I think for those exploring this option, the next best thing is a BK sub since it will already have a nice datewheel overlay, and perhaps get a hold of the correct hour hand. The best one I found is from raffles time, his "new" batch of 2836 eta hands has the correct hour hand. The ebay listing still shows his old batch which looks goofy. Then you can send your sub off to a modder to have them remove the 3 hands, substitite the correct hour hand and have them all relumed blue and reinstalled. Understand the match will be close but nor perfect but better than having totally green hands. If you already have a good ceramic sub (centered pearl, etc) you can simply get a BK overlay from BK and the hands from ebay (Bk did not have any last I checked with him) and have both done at the same time by a modder. Aus, post some pics here when it arrives