(First post - please be gentle) I too, am about to embark on a Raffles 14060 build because I don't seem to be able to locate a JKF case. It would seem to involve buying the whole watch from a TD?
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Rolex 5513 crystal size - Raffles case
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I know you bought my watch lol
My recommendation is to not swap the crystal because the bezel assembly/ crystal retainer type on these Raffles 5513 cases aren't friendly for swapping crystals.
The Raffles 5513 case uses the bezel wire kind of bezel assembly (the bezel is hard to remove) and the stock crystal is pressed into a rim of metal (extremely size specific and a gen-spec T19 plexi is guaranteed not to fit)
My recommendation is to not swap the crystal because the bezel assembly/ crystal retainer type on these Raffles 5513 cases aren't friendly for swapping crystals.
The Raffles 5513 case uses the bezel wire kind of bezel assembly (the bezel is hard to remove) and the stock crystal is pressed into a rim of metal (extremely size specific and a gen-spec T19 plexi is guaranteed not to fit)
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Lol and a great first post
There is no JFK case for a 14060 as far as I know, they only do 4 digit cases. I have a 14060 build and I used a TC case ad raffles dial. Unfortunately TC is no longer around. It was a 16610 case so the 16610 is about 0.5mm bigger so it is not an exact build. If I was doing it again, I heard BP are doing the 14060 again so check that out. Any TD should be able to tell you.
The raffles dial is 29mm as opposed to the gen dial which is 27.8mm I think. So most gen spec cases are too small. I presume Raffles make a bigger 14060 case to accommodate their dial. I do not know though as I have never used a Raffles case.
Again if you are buying a complete watch and you are lucky enough that BP are doing them it would save a lot of hassle. You could do a more accurate build in the future if you wanted to go that far. Be aware that BP sometimes do a 2813 option, for some of their models, if you really wanted a budget watch to try out.
Ah okay. Thanks for the advice! Looks like the watch will arrive in the next couple of days, so perhaps I’ll just learn to love the existing crystal.
Many thanks for this helpful advice. After doing a lot of reading here and elsewhere it does appear the 14060 is not an ideal choice given the unpopularity. Nobody seems to make an on-size case and dial for it. You're absolutely right about Raffles case - it is oversize.Lol and a great first post
If I was doing it again, I heard BP are doing the 14060 again so check that out. Any TD should be able to tell you.
The raffles dial is 29mm as opposed to the gen dial which is 27.8mm I think. So most gen spec cases are too small. I presume Raffles make a bigger 14060 case to accommodate their dial. I do not know though as I have never used a Raffles case.
Again if you are buying a complete watch and you are lucky enough that BP are doing them it would save a lot of hassle. You could do a more accurate build in the future if you wanted to go that far. Be aware that BP sometimes do a 2813 option, for some of their models, if you really wanted a budget watch to try out.
Seems a lot of people start out wanting to do a 14060 build and abandon it as either too complicated or too compromised.
I'm coming round to the idea of doing a 5513 or possibly a 6538.
I reslise I still have a hell of a lot to research and find out. Glad I made it here.
I had a gen 14060 back in the day - see pic. I was very proud to wear it as it was an unusal size and obviously the no date was a talking point. Had to sell it to pay the rent in leaner times and I've always had a plan to get a gen back one day. Meanwhile; here I am! ;-)
Yep, that 5513 is talking to me too!
Those are some beautiful pieces you've got there and no mistake.
Those are some beautiful pieces you've got there and no mistake.
Looking at the 5513, I understand why I finally chose it first, before the 1680.
It has that simple beauty of form and function, like my Exp1 that I like so much.
That said, your is heavily frankened
It has that simple beauty of form and function, like my Exp1 that I like so much.
That said, your is heavily frankened
This is an JKF that I have only lightly modded myself.Looking at the 5513, I understand why I finally chose it first, before the 1680.
It has that simple beauty of form and function, like my Exp1 that I like so much.
That said, your is heavily frankened
This one is just too nice...
Is that the JB one?
Is that the JB one?
Yep Roger Moore one, a Faded "Live and let Die" without the saw bezel lol. Sorry the second one is.
The fancy Franken one is a 1986 transitional gloss dial. The last of the 5513s before they transitioned to the 16800.
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you give me hopeThis is an JKF that I have only lightly modded myself.
what did you change?
I aged the bezel in bleach. Trial and error, you need a few practice bezel inserts lol. But the worst that can happen is it will completely ghost. You just have to keep an eye on it.
The strap is a vintage cousins strap with a Rolex buckle from Ebay.
I changed the plexi. I do not like the big domed Xtals that come as standard. This is a from cousins
XS305.451 Sternkreuz, Rolex No.19 (Ø305mm)
nice. I was thinking about the 303.472 but yours looks nice.
Press fit or crystal lift?
Press fit but it is not water resistant. I usually cheat and get my watchmaker to do my stuff.