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Reps on Watch Winders

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efnstefn

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I'm going flame-free on this one as it may be a "duh" kind of question....

I'm finding that most reps that I put in my watch winders (cheapos from eBay...uni-directional deals) stop working after anywhere from a 30 minutes to 6 hours or so in the winder. On the other hand, my gens seem to keep on cranking in the winders.

Is this an indication of perhaps imperfections under the rotors causing the stoppage or the need for lubrication or is this just the nature of reps??

Thanks in advance for the input.
 
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Klink

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I have not got a dlew about this but it does seem that
all i have ever read about reps talks about the need to
lube the asian auto versions.. tho i have quite a few
that have run fine for a couple years.. but then, I do not
use a winder..
it is probably silly of me, but seems to me kinda strange to
put a watch on a machine that is going to wear it out..
just my take..
: )

Klink
 
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TWP

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I have yet to put any of my reps on winders. They all have worked perfectly, some are a few years old. I am not fore sure I wuld trust putting them on a winder. Just voodoo I guess, or my paranoid nature.
 
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WRISTWATCH

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each watch manufacturer has a certain winder specification e.g.


Too much information
http://www.superiorwatch.com/Pages/boxes2.html
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... 2205&rid=2


Generally a range from 500 to 1,000 TPD (turns per day) with each manufacturer being slightly different.

Here is a list of some of the major watch manufacturers and their recommended TPD:
Sometomes clockwise and counterclockwise are specified as well


Audemars Piguet - 650
Auguste Reymond - 650
Baume & Mercier - 650 - 800
Bertolucci - 650
Blancplain - 650
Breguet - 500
Breitling - 650 - 800
Cartier - 650
Chase Durer - 650 - 800
Chopard - 650
Chonoswiss - 650 - 800
Corum - 650
Daniel Mink - 650
Dubey & Schaldenbrand - 650 - 800
Ebel - 650
ETA -650 - 800
Fortis - 650 - 800
Frederic Piquet - 800
Frederique Constant - 600
Hanhart - 650 - 800
Hublot - 650
IWC - 650 - 800
Jaeger Lecoutre - 650 - 900
Jean Marcel - 650 - 800
Maurice Lacroix - 650 - 800
Officine Panerai - 650 - 800
Omega - 650 - 800
Oris - 650 - 800
Patek Philipe - 650 - 800
Paul Picot - 650 - 800
Perrelet - 650
Piaget - 800
RGM - 650 - 800
Rolex - 650
Sothis - 650 - 800
Tag Heuer - 650 - 800
Tutima - 650 - 800
Ulysse Nardin - 650 - 800
Universal Geneve - 800
Waldan International - 500
Wenger - 800
Zenith - 650


and another List


CW CCW & BOTH refers to direction
RADO The Original - 42mm, 46.5mm Both 650
Sintra XXL Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650

RAINER BRAND Automatic Chronograph, Chronometer Chronograph: WMRB 9S, 9SC Base Lemania Caliber 1352 Both 650-950
Carcassone: WMRB 9S Base Lemania Caliber 1352 Both 650-950
Chronometer Classic, Chronometer Dualtime: WMRB 11 DGC, DSC, KGC, KSC Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Ecco: WMRB 06 S, SC Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Kerala Chronograph Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Panama Classic: WMRB 11 KG, KS, KX Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Panama Dualtime: WMRB 11 DS Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Panama Dualtime Chronometer: WMRB 11 DSC Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Pezzo Base ETA 2000 CW 650-800

RAINER NIENABER King Size GMT Base ETA 2893-2 Both 650
King Size Sports Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
King Size Date Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
King Size Jumping Hour Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
Model 2000 Chronograph Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800

RAYMOND WEIL Parsifal Automatic Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Parsifal Automatic Day-Date Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650

RENE MARCHAL Chronographe Tachymetre Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Heure Sautante Automatique Base ETA 2892-2 Both 650
Le Chronographe Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Le Quantieme Base ETA 2892-2 Both 650
Rattrapante Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Rm 101 Base Valjoux 7751 CW 800
Tricompax Gold Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Tricompax Stainless Steel Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800

RENEE GEROVE Gents Watch Base ETA 2671or 2824-2, or 2834-2 Both 650
Gents Watch: 6228 Base ETA 2000 CW 650-800
Gents Watch Chrongraph Base Valjoux 7750 or 7751 CW 800
Herrenarmbanduhr mit Mondphase Base ETA 2892-9000 D.D. Both 650
Lady Watch with Automatic Movements Base ETA 2671 Both 650

REVUE THOMMEN Airspeed Big Date Flyback Caliber J8151 Both 650
Airspeed Day Date Flyback Caliber J8001 CW 800
Airspeed XXL Automatic: 7000 Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Airspeed XXL Chronograph: 7001 Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Airspeed XXL Duograph Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Airspeed XXL Tachymeter: 7004 Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650

RGM Alarm: 110A Base AS 5008 CW 800
Chronograph: 109E Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Classic Automatic: 151E, 151EB Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Classic Automatic Copper Face Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Ltd. Edition: Coin Impression USS Constellation: 170 Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Moonphase Chronograph: 111M Base Valjoux 7751 CW 800
Pilot's Chronograph: 109 Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Pilot's Automatic: 107, 107bp Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Pilot's Military Automatic: 107m Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Pilot's Professional Automatic: 151P Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650

RITMO MUNDO Automatic Gran Data Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Coliseum Automatic Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Palazzo Automatic Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Pantheon Automatic Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Piccolo Ponte Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Ponte Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650

ROAMER Competence Automatic Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
Competence Carée Base ETA 2681 Both 650
Competence Chronograph Base ETA 2824-2+DD Module Both 650
Competence Original Automatic Base ETA 2688 Both 650
Competence r-matic Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
Competence Skeleton Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Competence Tonneau Chronograph Base ETA 7750 CW 800
La Grande Chrono Base ETA 2824 Both 650

ROBERT Octopus Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Poseidon Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650

ROBERT LIGHTON Algonquin Base Soprod Movement Both 650
Empire Base Soprod Movement Both 650
Growler Base Soprod Movement Both 650
Hudson Base Soprod Movement Both 650
San Remo Base Soprod Movement Both 650

ROGER DUBUIS Bi-retrograde Calendar Calibre RD5740 CCW 800
Bi-retrograde Perpetual Calendar Calibre RD5710 CCW 800
Bi-retrograde Perpetual Calendar Calibre RD5771 CCW 800
Bi-retrograde Perpetual Calendar Calibre RD5772 CCW 800
Hommage Automatic, Muchmore Automatic, Sympathie Automatic Calibre RD57 CCW 800
Three-Retrograde Calibre RD5799 CCW 800
Window Calendar Calibre RD5749 CCW 800
Window Perpetual Calendar Calibre RD5739 CCW 800

ROLEX Most Rolex Automatics Most Rolex Movements Both 650
Daytona Cosmograph 4130 Both 650-950

ROTARY All Automatic Models Both 650

RUDOLPHE Semainier Base ETA 2892A + DD module Both 650

Deco Venice 35mm, 40mm Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
 
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robertk

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I run my asian autos counter clockwise and eta's clockwise. occassionally, an eta will stop but normally they run fine on a winder.
 
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sexypapa

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WRISTWATCH said:
each watch manufacturer has a certain winder specification e.g.


Too much information
http://www.superiorwatch.com/Pages/boxes2.html
http://forums.timezone.com/index.php?t= ... 2205&rid=2


Generally a range from 500 to 1,000 TPD (turns per day) with each manufacturer being slightly different.

Here is a list of some of the major watch manufacturers and their recommended TPD:
Sometomes clockwise and counterclockwise are specified as well


Audemars Piguet - 650
Auguste Reymond - 650
Baume & Mercier - 650 - 800
Bertolucci - 650
Blancplain - 650
Breguet - 500
Breitling - 650 - 800
Cartier - 650
Chase Durer - 650 - 800
Chopard - 650
Chonoswiss - 650 - 800
Corum - 650
Daniel Mink - 650
Dubey & Schaldenbrand - 650 - 800
Ebel - 650
ETA -650 - 800
Fortis - 650 - 800
Frederic Piquet - 800
Frederique Constant - 600
Hanhart - 650 - 800
Hublot - 650
IWC - 650 - 800
Jaeger Lecoutre - 650 - 900
Jean Marcel - 650 - 800
Maurice Lacroix - 650 - 800
Officine Panerai - 650 - 800
Omega - 650 - 800
Oris - 650 - 800
Patek Philipe - 650 - 800
Paul Picot - 650 - 800
Perrelet - 650
Piaget - 800
RGM - 650 - 800
Rolex - 650
Sothis - 650 - 800
Tag Heuer - 650 - 800
Tutima - 650 - 800
Ulysse Nardin - 650 - 800
Universal Geneve - 800
Waldan International - 500
Wenger - 800
Zenith - 650


and another List


CW CCW & BOTH refers to direction
RADO The Original - 42mm, 46.5mm Both 650
Sintra XXL Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650

RAINER BRAND Automatic Chronograph, Chronometer Chronograph: WMRB 9S, 9SC Base Lemania Caliber 1352 Both 650-950
Carcassone: WMRB 9S Base Lemania Caliber 1352 Both 650-950
Chronometer Classic, Chronometer Dualtime: WMRB 11 DGC, DSC, KGC, KSC Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Ecco: WMRB 06 S, SC Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Kerala Chronograph Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Panama Classic: WMRB 11 KG, KS, KX Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Panama Dualtime: WMRB 11 DS Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Panama Dualtime Chronometer: WMRB 11 DSC Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Pezzo Base ETA 2000 CW 650-800

RAINER NIENABER King Size GMT Base ETA 2893-2 Both 650
King Size Sports Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
King Size Date Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
King Size Jumping Hour Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
Model 2000 Chronograph Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800

RAYMOND WEIL Parsifal Automatic Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Parsifal Automatic Day-Date Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650

RENE MARCHAL Chronographe Tachymetre Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Heure Sautante Automatique Base ETA 2892-2 Both 650
Le Chronographe Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Le Quantieme Base ETA 2892-2 Both 650
Rattrapante Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Rm 101 Base Valjoux 7751 CW 800
Tricompax Gold Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Tricompax Stainless Steel Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800

RENEE GEROVE Gents Watch Base ETA 2671or 2824-2, or 2834-2 Both 650
Gents Watch: 6228 Base ETA 2000 CW 650-800
Gents Watch Chrongraph Base Valjoux 7750 or 7751 CW 800
Herrenarmbanduhr mit Mondphase Base ETA 2892-9000 D.D. Both 650
Lady Watch with Automatic Movements Base ETA 2671 Both 650

REVUE THOMMEN Airspeed Big Date Flyback Caliber J8151 Both 650
Airspeed Day Date Flyback Caliber J8001 CW 800
Airspeed XXL Automatic: 7000 Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Airspeed XXL Chronograph: 7001 Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Airspeed XXL Duograph Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Airspeed XXL Tachymeter: 7004 Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650

RGM Alarm: 110A Base AS 5008 CW 800
Chronograph: 109E Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Classic Automatic: 151E, 151EB Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Classic Automatic Copper Face Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Ltd. Edition: Coin Impression USS Constellation: 170 Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Moonphase Chronograph: 111M Base Valjoux 7751 CW 800
Pilot's Chronograph: 109 Base Valjoux 7750 CW 800
Pilot's Automatic: 107, 107bp Base ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Pilot's Military Automatic: 107m Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650
Pilot's Professional Automatic: 151P Modified ETA 2892-A2 Both 650

RITMO MUNDO Automatic Gran Data Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Coliseum Automatic Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Palazzo Automatic Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Pantheon Automatic Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Piccolo Ponte Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Ponte Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650

ROAMER Competence Automatic Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
Competence Carée Base ETA 2681 Both 650
Competence Chronograph Base ETA 2824-2+DD Module Both 650
Competence Original Automatic Base ETA 2688 Both 650
Competence r-matic Base ETA 2836-2 Both 650
Competence Skeleton Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Competence Tonneau Chronograph Base ETA 7750 CW 800
La Grande Chrono Base ETA 2824 Both 650

ROBERT Octopus Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
Poseidon Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650

ROBERT LIGHTON Algonquin Base Soprod Movement Both 650
Empire Base Soprod Movement Both 650
Growler Base Soprod Movement Both 650
Hudson Base Soprod Movement Both 650
San Remo Base Soprod Movement Both 650

ROGER DUBUIS Bi-retrograde Calendar Calibre RD5740 CCW 800
Bi-retrograde Perpetual Calendar Calibre RD5710 CCW 800
Bi-retrograde Perpetual Calendar Calibre RD5771 CCW 800
Bi-retrograde Perpetual Calendar Calibre RD5772 CCW 800
Hommage Automatic, Muchmore Automatic, Sympathie Automatic Calibre RD57 CCW 800
Three-Retrograde Calibre RD5799 CCW 800
Window Calendar Calibre RD5749 CCW 800
Window Perpetual Calendar Calibre RD5739 CCW 800

ROLEX Most Rolex Automatics Most Rolex Movements Both 650
Daytona Cosmograph 4130 Both 650-950

ROTARY All Automatic Models Both 650

RUDOLPHE Semainier Base ETA 2892A + DD module Both 650

Deco Venice 35mm, 40mm Base ETA 2824-2 Both 650
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Very good and helpful info.

Hey, Wristwatch, don't see you for awhile. Welcome back!
 
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sevomd

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I may be wrong, but I think I read somewhere that Rolex does not recommend winders for their watches.

Eddy
 
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WRISTWATCH

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sevomd said:
I may be wrong, but I think I read somewhere that Rolex does not recommend winders for their watches.

Eddy
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If Rolex doesn't get paid for doing it they dont approve it
 
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Roeod4

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WRISTWATCH said:
sevomd said:
I may be wrong, but I think I read somewhere that Rolex does not recommend winders for their watches.

Eddy
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If Rolex doesn't get paid for doing it they dont approve it
Click to expand...

Very very true! :D
 
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Klink

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Rolex is deith, God and the minor idols..
even American Idol!

Esp if there is an endorsement..

as companies have personalites
the watches might be nice, but the
company is a supershit

: )
 
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