Removing Crownguards on 114060?

[RoXeW22]

Hey there,

I am exploring a Tempus Machina 216a project and looking for a modder (NA-based, preferably) who could do extensive casework to a 114060 case:

1. Eliminate Crown Guards completely
2. Shave down lugs and add chamfered edges
3. Drill lug holes
4. Replace crown / tube

This is extensive work -- does this even make sense? Is it worth pursuing? Any other alternatives? My fear is that it's too much to ask.
My other option is to buy a rep 216a and just have someone shave down the lugs and add chamfers.

Thanks in advance.

 

[asusundevils1971]

Look at this..

Tempus Machina Ref. 216A - A customized Rolex Submariner reminiscent of the Ref. 6538 (live pics & price) - Monochrome-Watches

Introducing the Tempus Machina Ref. 216A - A customized and modified Submariner reminiscent of the vintage Rolex Submariner Ref. 6538 (live pics & price)

monochrome-watches.com

See if this case would work

ROLEX Signed 6538 Vintage Style of 39mm Stainless Steel Submariner Watch Case With Acrylic Bubble Crystal Black Friction Bezel And 20mm Lugs Have Drilled Through Holes Fit ETA 2824 Or NH35/36/38 Movement And Dial In 28.0~29.0mm

rafflesdials.com

 

[Reaps]

You're gonna need someone with a milling machine and good machinists skills, or a CNC machine with someone who knows how to M-code/using manufacturing software to create it to remove the crown guards. It's alot of material to remove.

 

[Dohdoh]

It is not impossible... Even with manual work, but it it will take time and effort. But the modding cost could exceed the price for a case or even complete watch...

 

[Karbon74]

Hey there,

I am exploring a Tempus Machina 216a project and looking for a modder (NA-based, preferably) who could do extensive casework to a 114060 case:

1. Eliminate Crown Guards completely
2. Shave down lugs and add chamfered edges
3. Drill lug holes
4. Replace crown / tube

This is extensive work -- does this even make sense? Is it worth pursuing? Any other alternatives? My fear is that it's too much to ask.
My other option is to buy a rep 216a and just have someone shave down the lugs and add chamfers.

Thanks in advance.

This sounds like a stupid project that I would try if in EU

case work is only part of it. You also need to machine coin edge on the bezel

I thought GF had made a rep?

 

[geoffdragon]

This was my first attempt at removing crown guards on a GMT case....hand file followed by wet and dry sandpaper....
It's not as hard as you'd think, but my next effort will be better for sure...this needed more polishing to remove the final scuffs.

 

[Reaps]

This was my first attempt at removing crown guards on a GMT case....hand file followed by wet and dry sandpaper....
It's not as hard as you'd think, but my next effort will be better for sure.

How long did that take you? It must have taken at least 24 hours of straight filing

 

[geoffdragon]

@Reaps - only a morning's work and some very sore thumbs after polishing with wet and dry.

 

[Reaps]

@Reaps - only a morning's work and some very sore thumbs after polishing with wet and dry.

Good job. I know for a fact that must have been very very painful. It looks good too. The reason I suggest a machinist or jig is knowing how clumsy I am I wouldn't make it symmetrical - which would bug the shit out of me lol

 

[Karbon74]

A belt sander or a disc sander would be the appropriate home tool, this would ensure default symmetry

That said, you can do that with tungsten carbide metal working bits and a dremel on workstation, at least for the mass removal

Then finish with usual flap drum

This would need stable hands and a good eye

 

[Mkempes]

Any other alternatives?

Did you consider buying it ready OOTB?

see: https://theonewatches.cc/index.php?...tage+5510&product_id=3209&search=Vintage+5510

 

[Mkempes]

BTW: @Nikz19 did this mod for me.

 

[RoXeW22]

BTW: @Nikz19 did this mod for me.

What exactly was done here and how much did he charge? It looks great!

And yes -- have considered buying it OOTB as well (mentioned in my initial post). But just scoping out options as I'd like to Franken this a bit.

 

[Mkempes]

What exactly was done here and how much did he charge? It looks great!

And yes -- have considered buying it OOTB as well (mentioned in my initial post). But just scoping out options as I'd like to Franken this a bit.

Thanks, I like the GMT a lot more like this. It suits my small wrist far better than the rather bulky original design.

PMed you regarding the costs.

 

[Karbon74]

BTW: @Nikz19 did this mod for me.

You cannot see how my hands are twitching to try this now…

 

[Mkempes]

You cannot see how my hands are twitching to try this now…

 

[MaximillianGT]

A belt sander or a disc sander would be the appropriate home tool, this would ensure default symmetry

That said, you can do that with tungsten carbide metal working bits and a dremel on workstation, at least for the mass removal

Then finish with usual flap drum

This would need stable hands and a good eye

I can use a good old metal file to do this without breaking a sweat, but then the polishing is more difficult than filing.

 

[Karbon74]

I can use a good old metal file to do this without breaking a sweat, but then the polishing is more difficult than filing.

Somehow, I dont like hand files
I feel I have better control with a fixed dremel and my hands moving the case

 

[RoXeW22]

Thanks everyone. It sounds like of the 4 tasks I listed, the crownguard elimination may not be the most economical or practical case mod.
If that is the case...

What if I just wanted to primarily do the other things (shave lugs, re-do chamfer, drill lug holes, install new case tube/crown) -- any modder recommendations there?

 

[Reaps]

Thanks everyone. It sounds like of the 4 tasks I listed, the crownguard elimination may not be the most economical or practical case mod.
If that is the case...

What if I just wanted to primarily do the other things (shave lugs, re-do chamfer, drill lug holes, install new case tube/crown) -- any recommendations there?

Buy a cheap JKF watch or an Aliexpress homage to cut your teeth on doing this stuff. There are guides out there. If you bungle the aliexpress/JKF modding then you know maybe you'll have to find a modder to do it for you. There are guides out there. Good luck.