RAIDS happening - message from reddit dealer

[derjenigewelcher]

Rules....

 

[C Master]

Goldenboy74 all that has been said above is correct.

It is helpful for people to see that QCs are available and they can draw their own conclusions on them.

We do not need the thread to become a debate over minor flaws that all reps have. Enjoy the watch. I just got QCs in the last few days and the watch is already in Europe.

 

[thewatchdog]

Everything is so quite here since a few days. No updates?

 

[ETAWatchlover]

Every thing has been said.
damm the raids
New laws .
Owners hide
TDs hide .
Raids after raids .
Reopen in approximately 3-6monts
Maybe even relocate

 

[John Abel]

Everything is so quite here since a few days. No updates?

It´s been 1160 posts, most with indirect information. Basically, we don't know the actual situation there.
I think a page has passed, if not a chapter or a whole book. Let´s just hope they come back to business with more safety measures and a more discreet approach.
I've been thinking these days that one of the reasons triggering these actions may actually be not the watches themselves or youtubers, but stuff like warranty cards, certificates, boxes, even making fake receipts. That is the "scam kit" that will not only take a customer from Rolex, but also may make someone angry with them ("why don't they take action against these scammers?").

 

[ETAWatchlover]

They could stamp the backside of the cases in my opinion.I would not care to have a deep N stamp on the back of the case .

 

[ETAWatchlover]

I don't want to get banned but there are a few scammers here I think. Like those people who obsess about the model number in the case back and advise to buy the different maker even though the watch with the wrong model number looks 90% and has a refined construction and the correct model number version is like 80% with more or less shody workmanship.

 

[ETAWatchlover]

I have one guy in Guangzhou that is not in the watch business but makes Goodyear welted boots and some rep sneakers (not his main business) .
He is the only guy that I could ask to get a bit more reliable info because he doesn't need to safe his ass like some TDs

 

[RiffRalf]

It´s been 1160 posts, ....

Of which about 50 contain useful info, the rest being a mix of "waaaaa I want.my watch when can I get my watch" and the rest tangential nonsense and conjecture

 

[Fergulator72]

They could stamp the backside of the cases in my opinion.I would not care to have a deep N stamp on the back of the case .

I agree,I really don't care what the case back says,I've decided to have a few Panerai made by watch makers in m2m,they have displayed case back showing different movements,I don't care

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[Fergulator72]

It´s been 1160 posts, most with indirect information. Basically, we don't know the actual situation there.
I think a page has passed, if not a chapter or a whole book. Let´s just hope they come back to business with more safety measures and a more discreet approach.
I've been thinking these days that one of the reasons triggering these actions may actually be not the watches themselves or youtubers, but stuff like warranty cards, certificates, boxes, even making fake receipts. That is the "scam kit" that will not only take a customer from Rolex, but also may make someone angry with them ("why don't they take action against these scammers?").

You could be right,I know of a situation where a well know watch seller in Australia lost nearly $20,000 on a Daytona with box,cards the full set,I don't think people know how good reps have become,he should have done more research into the watch he was purchasing for a client,but these things are happening,rep watches are getting into the gen market , possibly a reason why the Crackdown by china

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[Manuel.b]

I agree with what you have written, the reason for the authorities' fury against replica manufacturers is not the fake watches they produce, but the fraudsters who pass off replicas as genuine... The only way to stop these scammers is to eradicate the problem at the source, i.e. close down the replica factories.

 

[Uhr70]

I agree with what you have written, the reason for the authorities' fury against replica manufacturers is not the fake watches they produce, but the fraudsters who pass off replicas as genuine... The only way to stop these scammers is to eradicate the problem at the source, i.e. close down the replica factories.

La triste verita'... I wonder how well the high quality rep market will bounce back from all this..

 

[GrandmasterChime]

Of which about 50 contain useful info, the rest being a mix of "waaaaa I want.my watch when can I get my watch" and the rest tangential nonsense and conjecture

So true

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[Mr Luxe]

Received QC photos from Trusty earlier today for a PPF 5711. Andrew said ZF, PPF and 3KF are up and running and most items are available. VSF hopefully by mid July. Everyone (including TDs) seems to have a different story and opinion on when there will be some normalcy again.

 

[Tonash88]

I agree with what you have written, the reason for the authorities' fury against replica manufacturers is not the fake watches they produce, but the fraudsters who pass off replicas as genuine... The only way to stop these scammers is to eradicate the problem at the source, i.e. close down the replica factories.

“Stopping these scammers” is just one of the smallest concerns / issues for the government.

I can spend the whole day talking about why any government needs to stop rep watch market .

But of course I love rep watches and I am no saint so I don’t wish to add on.

Anyway , give it a while . I am sure the rep market will rebound, if not in China then it will end up at somewhere else . By then , the technology will be better than what we have today. This is life .

And ... Don’t undermine china’s government efforts, everything is at the mercy of the government’s directions . I remembered the same thing happened to the nightlife scene in CP. In just months , the government changed a buzzing city to a desert because it’s time to clean up .


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[ETAWatchlover]

So my information out of Guangzhou is just that raids happened and factories are still running but not normal .
Parts are still being made at a slow rate but not assembled.
Some Workshops that assemble watches start to sell of case sets and movements elsewhere . AliExpress is flooded to some extent with full noob etc .cases and whole 3135 movements .Even the Rolex GMT movements start to pop up .I would not be surprised if the Daytona movements pop up .I was able to buy whole bags of Hublot screws and bezels if I want .
I can somehow get more parts than I am used to ...
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[bertieng]

Even the Rolex GMT movements start to pop up

You mean the gen?

 

[Jayalvin777]

You mean the gen?

Ofc not, he meant vr movements

 

[bertieng]

Ofc not, he meant vr movements

Ah ok, got it. Tks
The VR movements have long been around at Ali, actually even the SA4130 is now available, but without having the Noob case and parts it is pointless to get it unless the one in your Noob V4 is dead.