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deafnotdaft

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This thread is being started for people like me......

This thread is not predominantly here to help you choose whether you should accept the watch you are being offered or not. Only you can decide if you want the watch or not. This thread is desirably here so people can see different variations of watches and different examples of reps. It is here so people can look at the QC pictures and see the comments of more experienced rep collectors. Learning from the comments and variations in the quality of the reps over time. This knowledge can then be shared with new members in the future only enhancing the collective reason we are all fundamentally here for, that being, to be around like minded watch enthusiasts with a passion for quality reps.


People like me love watches and have several around the house, I used to collect Swatch Watches in my youth and although I have given my children several of them over the years I still have quite a few of them. I also have several other various watches that are not expensive and I have always dreamed of owning a high end watch. Unfortunately, I have never been in a position to purchase a high end expensive watch. I can, however, purchase a rep from time to time if I save my money wisely.

So that brings me to this place, with like minded people around me who love watches and who want to purchase a good example of a rep for either show or daily use.

The problem is, being new to the rep game I am not as experienced as other members who have been dipping their toes into the rep world pond for several years. There are members on this forum who have seen all types of rep examples from appallingly bad to excitingly good! Furthermore, a lot of the people who have found their way to this forum have been stung in the past loosing their money to fake dealers.

So...... That is where this thread comes in. I don't want to be reliant on someone else to have to point out the good, the bad and the ugly points to a watch I may or may not be purchasing. I wan't to be able to do this myself. But I will not be able to do this without experience and education. It is not enough for someone to simply purchase a watch and learn from that experience about future purchases. If I buy an Omega today but want a Rolex in the future, my experience of purchasing an Omega will not really help me in deciding if the Rolex I am being offered is a good example or not.

Before I trained to be a Midwife I had experienced an witnessed the birth of my own 2 children. But by simply having these two experiences, it did not qualify me to deliver any babies or care for any pregnant women! My point is, without training, education and support I would not have been able to do my job. So without the education and support of my peers here on the forum, how am I supposed to know what is and isn't a good example of a rep?

Not everyone is going to agree with me and I respect that, but there are other members on the forum who would be happy to share their thoughts, insights and experience to new members. So this thread is for you, and those people who wish to share and help.

SO post your pictures in this thread, tell us what you have been told your watch is and people can pass on their thoughts about the watch.




OK, so I will start it off. Below are the QC pics of an Omega CrPO 42mm. I was told that this watch was from the Noob factory by the TD offering me the watch. I later found out it was from the L factory. When I spoke to the TD about it being an L factory they apologized for any mistake and clarified to me later that the watch was indeed an L factory watch.



Comments received from other members about this watch where that generally this watch was a good example. The only thing I did not like was the pearl was not centralized as per gen watch pearl. On the CrPO the pearl is central within the triangle and equal in distance from all the sides and corners of the triangle. This isn't the case on all gen Omegas, but it is for the CrPO.





It would be good if there could be several threads for different brands (one for Rolex, one for Omega and so on), however, as I am expecting this thread to be removed I have not started any other threads.

Moderator, please feel free to move this thread If it has been started in the wrong place, I just thought that a "flame free zone" would be the most appropriate place for it.
 

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At RWI, we're fortunate to have a few dealers who take the time to individually procure, inspect, and photograph watches for potential buyers. This has not always been the norm, and in fact, it's a recent development. Up until about two years ago, all of the dealers drop-shipped everything and never even had the items in their hands before it got sent to buyers. As a result, buyers got items with obvious flaws and occasionally received the wrong thing altogether, and it was all "part of the game".

Things have changed, and for the better. We do now have dealers who are willing to post QC pics to buyers to make sure that people get what they want. But there's a specific purpose for those pictures, and unfortunately, we're seeing more and more buyers (usually new members) who are abusing this privilege.

Purpose of QC pic:

1) ensuring that you are getting the right watch
2) identifying any serious flaws in the item

You may post a QC pic if you have a specific question about a possible flaw that you have found, and want input on how common or acceptable it is. However, the purpose of QC pics, and especially posting it on the open forum, is not: "Dealer X has sent me this QC pic, what do you think?"

We expect everyone to do their own research and homework as to whether an item is acceptable to them. If you haven't noticed a flaw, asking 70k members to jump in and identify all the problems they can possibly find is unfair to everyone. It's unfair to the folks who have taken the time and effort to learn about this hobby. It's even more unfair to the dealers, who have to individually buy the watches for you, inspect and photograph it, only to have you decide that some tiny imperfection which you never noticed in the first place, renders the piece unacceptable.

The staff here does not want the responsibility of censoring these posts, so we ask you to use your own good judgment in posting these pictures, or responding to the requests of others. Fortunately, having reviewed a recent thread on this topic, it seems that the consensus of the longtime members is that they understand and agree with this policy.

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=95316

This is Rwi's guidelines on Qc pics, unless this is followed Qc pic threads will be closed.


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deafnotdaft

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This is Rwi's guidelines on Qc pics, unless this is followed Qc pic threads will be closed.

Closing this or any other thread like this is denying people like me, who wish to look at various examples of reps, the ability to learn from and make educated informed choices for ourselves when purchasing future reps.

This thread is not for people to ask "whats up with my watch" or "point out the problems for me" and this was clearly stated in the op.

No one can tell me to accept a watch they think is either good, bad or ugly. It is up to me to decide if I want the watch or not. But, I at least want to be able to make the decision myself through an educated informed choice and not through blind acceptance that the watch face has at least got the right brand name on the front!

People offering advice need to accept this as much as people seeking the advice. Only the person paying for the watch should be taking the responsibility for its purchase and acceptance.

Maybe the new members wishing to be educated will stick around long enough to share their knowledge with future new members and in turn become more liberal long term members! Who knows? This is a public forum after all, so who knows where the freedom of speech, the freedom of opinion and the desire of knowledge and advancement will take this thread?
 

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Who said anything about closing this thread?
Follow the forums guideline on Qc pics and nothing will be closed, if you actually spend some time reading there is enough pics, reviews, threads on the majority of reps on the forum for anyone to make an informed decision!

I look forward to the day when Qc pics are banned!!


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Closing this or any other thread like this is denying people like me, who wish to look at various examples of reps, the ability to learn from and make educated informed choices for ourselves when purchasing future reps.

This thread is not for people to ask "whats up with my watch" or "point out the problems for me" and this was clearly stated in the op.

No one can tell me to accept a watch they think is either good, bad or ugly. It is up to me to decide if I want the watch or not. But, I at least want to be able to make the decision myself through an educated informed choice and not through blind acceptance that the watch face has at least got the right brand name on the front!

People offering advice need to accept this as much as people seeking the advice. Only the person paying for the watch should be taking the responsibility for its purchase and acceptance.

Maybe the new members wishing to be educated will stick around long enough to share their knowledge with future new members and in turn become more liberal long term members! Who knows? This is a public forum after all, so who knows where the freedom of speech, the freedom of opinion and the desire of knowledge and advancement will take this thread?

+1 to sharrkey

you don't need QC pics to learn and get educated. just like this thread, threads are out there to educated you of the purpose of QC pics yet it's not being read at all.

there are tonnes of guides, comparisons and reviews out there, painstakingly prepared to help members, that is being wasted by people who are just plain lazy and wish to take the easy way out by posting QC pics.

and if people did do their homework and spotted a flaw, it's still allowed for discussion.
 

deafnotdaft

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Who said anything about closing this thread?

You did! chortle chortle...

This is Rwi's guidelines on Qc pics, unless this is followed Qc pic threads will be closed.

Follow the forums guideline on Qc pics and nothing will be closed
*dops cap and thanks you sir ;)

if you actually spend some time reading there is enough pics, reviews, threads on the majority of reps on the forum for anyone to make an informed decision!
I agree with this, however, the more information there is out there the better for all. A little more knowledge, education, support and guidance will not hurt anyone.

I look forward to the day when Qc pics are banned!!
Why would you look forward to that? Apart from being to the annoyance of some longtime members I think the majority of new members (who will hopefully stick round long enough to be longtime members) would welcome the opportunity to get as much information and guidance as they could. If threads like this enable that, then they should be welcomed. Otherwise the new members may drift away to other forums which is not productive for this place.

For those people not wishing to partake in the spirit of support to their less experienced peers the answer is simple, do not read or respond to the thread.
 

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You did! chortle chortle...

This is Rwi's guidelines on Qc pics, unless this is followed Qc pic threads will be closed.


Rep flaw are essentially an objective topic. Some people will be happy with certain flaws (or don't even notice it), others aren't. The countless forum threads, discussions, stickies, reviews etc have already pointed out all the issues on reps, and it is your responsibility to read up on all these
. QC pictures are for you, because it is you who's going to be wearing the watch, simple as that. Imposing other people's objective opinions on a rep you'd otherwise be happy with does not help you, the dealer, or any other people reading the thread.

Sure I understand buying your first couple of reps is a daunting thing, and nothing's stopping you from posting QC pictures if there is a SPECIFIC issue you're unsure of. But if you can't spot any flaws, then you've either haven't done or any research, or you're happy with it.
 

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Op I've said my piece and posted the forum guidelines, now I suggest you read them and understand them going forward as no special rules apply to you or anyone ok.

p=1847985]Originally Posted by deafnotdaft

You did! chortle chortle...



<font color="#C0C0C0">This is Rwi's guidelines on Qc pics, unless this is followed Qc pic threads will be closed.

Here read my quote again, no where does it say I'm closing this thread!!

And finally if you ain't happy with how Rwi is run or it's guidelines for members then close the door behind you on the way out ok!!

S???R?I????? :sharrkey:



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**** this! the only people who should be allowed to post QC pics are,,,,,,,, blind people!
the rest of us have functional eyes! and i guess a little bit of brain!
this is a pain in the ass for our TD's
if your dealer sent you some ****** up qc pics , and u felt like they are insulting you , then change ur dealer .
noobs will never learn if others are always babysitting .
 

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OP your intent may be noble, but there really are a billion threads here for you to learn from.
No harm if you and any one that posts here follow the guidelines, nonetheless :popcorn:
 

deafnotdaft

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Op I've said my piece and posted the forum guidelines, now I suggest you read them and understand them going forward as no special rules apply to you or anyone ok.

p=1847985]Originally Posted by deafnotdaft

You did! chortle chortle...



<font color="#C0C0C0">This is Rwi's guidelines on Qc pics, unless this is followed Qc pic threads will be closed.

Here read my quote again, no where does it say I'm closing this thread!!

And finally if you ain't happy with how Rwi is run or it's guidelines for members then close the door behind you on the way out ok!!

S???R?I????? :sharrkey:



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Blimey Sharkey! Good job I'm thick skinned and believe everyone is entitled to an opinion, otherwise I could have perceived my arse was being slightly roasted as I was on my way out there ;)
 

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Sharrkey said it all and I totally agree. Well put Shark. I got to the point with the two TD's that I use that I realized that I don't need QC pics. They both check the watches out thoroughly and even keep the watches for a couple days to make sure they are functioning properly so that their customers don't receive a doa. But still they both send QC pics. So I give them a half assed look over and immediately email them back approving of them. And this is because I trust them.

As mentioned by others, there are plenty of reviews of tons of watches on here. You don't need to look at people's qc pics. look up the review threads of the particular watch you want. Someone's review after they have received their watch is going to be much more helpful in deciding on a watch than just looking at someone's qc pics with no info about the watch. Every watch that I have purchased has been because I read several reviews here about the certain watch, and the words from the people that actually had the watch is what convinced me to buy my watches. Viewing qc pics does nothing, because you can see pics of reps everywhere here and on the td sites.
 

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also, as I've looked around at gen crpo's there is a difference in size of pearls, and location within the triangle. Crpo's come with the smaller pearl that is located towards the bottom half of the triangle and I've seen even some of the larger pearls that are lower justified in the triangle. So to me the location of your pearl is a non issue because the gens are varied also, and I assume that is because probably of the year made and such, as there are always changes happening with the gens. I would accept that watch and be happy because there is nothing wrong with it's location.
 

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OP, I think you started this thread with the best of intentions, however, I think it is slightly misguided if I'm honest.

You are clearly intelligent and articulate, and in my opinion you need it plough your efforts into more research both on the forum and in reality, rather than trying to pour over various QC pics to make a decision over a watch.

I know you're trying to get hold of a CrPO at the moment, and I think actually having a rep in your hand and being able to compare it with gen will tell you everything you need to know about the hobby. Your watch will not be perfect, that is a fact, what you need to decide is if the flaws are acceptable to you. The only way to do this is to take the plunge.

My take is that if I trust a dealer enough to send him $300 odd over the internet, I should trust him to send me a decent watch. I don't use QC pics myself, I've built relationships with a couple of dealers to the point where if they email me to say they have something nice which they know I'm looking for, I'll accept it without knowing the maker or spec if I've got the cash.

Please don't take this as dismissive, I'm simply saying the only way to really learn is to get stuck in, anything else will just be building a false sense of security or prevent you from ever enjoying this hobby for what it is.

Good luck with your search, both for information and a watch.
 

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What's the obsession with QC pics ?

I'd like to know as well. I have never been a fan of them. They cause more trouble than they are worth.

OP-I understand the intent of your Post, I think. However, posting A QC pic may or may not be helpful. I think they confuse more than help. You may be posting a QC pic and asking a question about a flaw that is inherent to that rep. Meaning...that's as good as it gets. A new person may see that post and reject QC because he/she thinks the watch is "flawed". Researching and searching the information here will teach you far more and help avoid confusing posts and questions. There is a huge amount of information here at RWI...utilize it. Also, research the dealers. We have some great ones here. You don't need QC pics with them.

Hopefully, you will stick around. It's good to see new folks post and express their opinions.

Be well!
 

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I would like to make a positive statement and say, those are without a doubt the best fingernails I've ever seen posted here.:thumbsup: