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[QC] VSF Aqua Terra Blue Wave

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Also it’s my first post, I hope I navigated to the correct sub forum. Im torn on this rep, really like the dial, but the gold looks off. Here’s a gen to compare Do you think I should order a green or blue instead? Or just go all in?
 

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Please see the following links on how QC is handled on RWI:


 

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Well alright, thanks for the warm welcome… I just want your opinion on the rep, I know that QC wise it’s a GL. Also it’s my first rep, so please bear with me.
 

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QC pics are for you to decide on the watch and Eboy sent you two links to read explaining everything you need to know. If you already know it's going to be a GL then you don't need anyone else's opinions. Enjoy the watch when it arrives and wear it in good health.
 
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Also: QC pics have nothing to do with the question "how close does the watch get to Gen". To answer this question, you have to read the respective discussions in the relevant sub-forums and decide for yourself whether it is enough for you.

QC pics are then there to check if it is a) the watch/version you ordered and b) to check if there are QC issues (e.g. scratches, crooked markers, etc). But this is usually something you can judge for yourself. Even without experience with QC images.
 
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Ok, sorry in that case and thank you for not banning me. I'll know what to do in the future. So if this is still the right place to ask - would you go for the version that's closer to gen - the black 8900 VSF - or is the gold 'passable' enough? If you saw this on the street would you go: "yeah it's fake gold paint"?
 

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You didn't read one word of the links above. There is a ton of information on here if you just take the time to search. It's your money and your decision on which brand, style, factory and TD. No one here is going to spoon feed you the information.

 
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You're the one who doesn't understand. I'm not looking for any spoonfeeding ffs, I already paid for and judged the QC for myself. I'm looking for OPINIONS on this vsf model in general. At first I wanted to also get second opinions on QC, but now I see that's somehow forbidden on this forum.

You know what, I'm curious. WHY is it so wrong to discuss the QC here? We're paying 100 usd or more over non-TDs for the added service of timegrapher pics, easier shipping, better communication and the ability to change to a different model. I'm also asking on here and on reddit because I DON'T WANT TO BE A PAIN IN THE A** THE TD. I keep communication with them straight and to the point and save some extra questions and thoughts for the forum. Is that really so wrong?

I feel like you guys are just being mean for no reason.
 

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Also - 'ton of information'? https://forum.replica-watch.info/search/865120/?q=aqua+terra+blue+wave&o=date

There is nothing discussing the model itself and discrepancies between it and gen. I'm not a complete newb, I know about e.g. the presence of the 2nd balance arm on the vsf and just one on the gen, I know about 28800bph on the vsf and 25,200 on the gen, as is supposed to be in modern coaxial movements. Still, there is NO discussion about the Blue Wave model. Only old trading offers. And not much more in the threads about Aqua Terra in general. The subreddit you hate so much has 100 times more threads. I don't really see any in depth discussion of rep movements. The only deep reviews and comparisons are done by TD's like Theonewatches (they also repost those to reddit, how do you feel about that?)

In short, if you guys are so much smarter, then you could show it instead of sh*tting on newbies with passive aggressive gifs.
 

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Thought you said you were not a newb and then say you are a newb in the same post. Here are five threads that took me five minutes of searching on here.
To answer your question, you have to read the respective discussions in the relevant sub-forums and decide for yourself whether it is enough for you
It was mentioned above what you need to do.
And since you like gif's so much!!!!


 
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You know what, I'm curious. WHY is it so wrong to discuss the QC here?

Tell me that you didn't even read just a single word of the two QC links I gave you, without telling me that you didn't read just a single word of the two QC links I gave you.
 

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Tell me that you didn't even read just a single word of the two QC links I gave you, without telling me that you didn't read just a single word of the two QC links I gave you.
I've already read it and I personally disagree with this bit:
>We expect everyone to do their own research and homework as to whether an item is acceptable to them. If you haven't noticed a flaw, asking 38K members to jump in and identify all the problems they can possibly find is unfair to everyone. It's unfair to the folks who have taken the time and effort to learn about this hobby. It's even more unfair to the dealers, who have to individually buy the watches for you, inspect and photograph it, only to have you decide that some tiny imperfection which you never noticed in the first place, renders the piece unacceptable.
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Again, we pay a 100 usd+ upmark for the 'privilege' of GLing or RLing a watch based on our personal decision. Sure there's a limit, but if someone is bothered by an (even slightly) crooked 12 index on their SMP they should have a right to discuss it AND rl it. Nothing insulting about it. It's literally REP RESELLERS we're talking about, not some artisans. They're literally businessmen, no one owes them any special treatment. I'm not advocating for RLing over the most microscopic stuff, but what you guys preach is the exact opposite.
 

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Thought you said you were not a newb and then say you are a newb in the same post. Here are five threads that took me five minutes of searching on here.
None of those are about Blue Wave. Nevertheless thanks for filtering for some of the better Aqua Terra reps, worth a read, unironically. Also up your gif game, that last one wasn't nearly passive aggressive enough.
 

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I've already read it and I personally disagree with this bit:
>We expect everyone to do their own research and homework as to whether an item is acceptable to them. If you haven't noticed a flaw, asking 38K members to jump in and identify all the problems they can possibly find is unfair to everyone. It's unfair to the folks who have taken the time and effort to learn about this hobby. It's even more unfair to the dealers, who have to individually buy the watches for you, inspect and photograph it, only to have you decide that some tiny imperfection which you never noticed in the first place, renders the piece unacceptable.
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Again, we pay a 100 usd+ upmark for the 'privilege' of GLing or RLing a watch based on our personal decision. Sure there's a limit, but if someone is bothered by an (even slightly) crooked 12 index on their SMP they should have a right to discuss it AND rl it. Nothing insulting about it. It's literally REP RESELLERS we're talking about, not some artisans. They're literally businessmen, no one owes them any special treatment. I'm not advocating for RLing over the most microscopic stuff, but what you guys preach is the exact opposite.

Those policies were organically born out of almost two decades of experience, including the good old days before QC even was a thing. It's a privilege that is unfortunately often abused with completely unfounded rejections of perfectly fine watches.

Public QCs in Reddit fashion have made this problem worse at least or may even have created it in the first place.

I trust the admins' opinions here more than your judgement on this particular matter of public QCing.
 

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None of those are about Blue Wave
Holy shiiite... You have been on here for five months and and couldn't find anything. I took five minutes to find threads on the VSF Aqua Terra and sorry it wasn't the exact one. The searching and reading is for you to do and not me..