QC Check RM055 ZF NTPT RUML2

[jfgonzal53]

Mod edit : no, no... oh, and no.

There are rules about QCs, members gently tell you how it works here, please comply or go back to reddit.

 

[rubot1k]

Looks like a v1 zf

My main main concerns are whether it is the correct factory, as I have heard this is one of the best.

Its a ZF, but not the best, ZF only best at white ceramic
Best ntnt is APSF

 

[jfgonzal53]

Hi Guys,

Wondering what you guys think of these QC pics for RM055 ZF NTPT RUML2

My main main concerns are whether it is the correct factory, as I have heard this is one of the best.

I would also like to know about the general finish and style matching the original and what flaws it may have.

Also, whether the correct movement.

My understanding is that this is a new release and one of the best ones out there. From the QC pictures an immediate concern is that the carbon doesn’t shine or cannot see it clearly like other QC pics where the carbon really sparkles. I want to make sure it is nearly indistinguishable from original as well with no flaws.

Here are the specs:

Size 43mm x 13.5mm

Movement Asian super clone RMUL2 skeleton movement, the best Asian RM movement at the moment, same construction as genuine

Functions Hours, minutes and seconds display

Case Real NTPT material bezel, case crown and caseback, not PVD plated or metals. The screws are interchangeable with genuine watch part.

Crystal Super clear scratch-proof sapphire crystal with correct color purple AR coating, same shape and size as genuine watch, can be replaced with genuine watch parts.

Dial Skeleton dial

Bezel Real NTPT carbon bezel with glossy finish, unique pattern on each bezel. The NTPT texture reflection is same as genuine.

Strap High quality black shark rubber strap, same quality as genuine strap, interchangeable with genuine watch strap

Clasp High quality deployment clasp, almost same as genuine clasp

Water resistance Yes

Pics:
https://clickpix.org/image/2Bz1Vt
https://clickpix.org/image/2Bzni2
https://clickpix.org/image/2BzykF
https://clickpix.org/image/2BzYY5
https://clickpix.org/image/2Bz6pE
https://clickpix.org/image/2Bz8Gn

Further details:

RM055 ZF Factory


1. ⁠⁠Dealer name: Intimé
2. ⁠⁠Factory name: ZF
3. ⁠⁠Model name (& version number): Black NTPT RM055
4. ⁠⁠Price Paid: $848$
5. ⁠⁠Album Links: above
6. ⁠⁠Index alignment: unsure
7. ⁠⁠Dial Printing: unsure
8. ⁠⁠Date Wheel alignment/printing: N/A
9. ⁠⁠Hand Alignment: unsure
10. ⁠⁠Bezel: seems less carbon shine than other’s pics
11. ⁠⁠Solid End Links (SELs): NA
12. ⁠⁠Timegrapher numbers: asked for video and waiting for it
13. ⁠⁠Anything else you notice? Shine doesn’t seem accurate, no video sent, picture quality isn’t good.

 

[Tobel]

Mate please read the rules about QC pics. You have asked a few specific questions such as "is it the latest ZF", those are fine and you got an answer.

But you're not allowed to asked people to QC your watch, if they see anything else etc.

QC pics are also not meant to assess whether the watch you want to buy is the closest to gen, how good the not is etc. that's your job to read the thread where this information is debated and detailed, and ask questions before you order a watch

 

[Reaps]

2016, 2 posts, reddit format lol

 

[Harolds]

Yes this thread isn't allowed but anyways to answer your questions this is the old model v1 of the ZF, you should ask for v3 since you paid over $800.

V3 ZF is the best there is so far for standard price.

 

[jfgonzal53]

Mate please read the rules about QC pics. You have asked a few specific questions such as "is it the latest ZF", those are fine and you got an answer.

But you're not allowed to asked people to QC your watch, if they see anything else etc.

QC pics are also not meant to assess whether the watch you want to buy is the closest to gen, how good the not is etc. that's your job to read the thread where this information is debated and detailed, and ask questions before you order a watch

Silly me to actually want to get some insight into the watch. Would rather you provide some insight instead of a read the rules reply. Provide insight into what you can and ignore the rest if you don’t like it. Forgot why I don’t post online.

 

[jfgonzal53]

Yes this thread isn't allowed but anyways to answer your questions this is the old model v1 of the ZF, you should ask for v3 since you paid over $800.

V3 ZF is the best there is so far for standard price.

Thanks Harold, this is really helpful.

 

[asusundevils1971]

Silly me to actually want to get some insight into the watch. Would rather you provide some insight instead of a read the rules reply

So you are too lazy to do your own research and want the members here to do it for you, no fecking spoon feeding here for lazy people.

The QC rules below is something you should get very familiar with and you will get all the insight you need.

A little on QC pics.

QC pics are to satisfy YOU that the watch is OK to YOUR standards, that there are no crooked indices, missing lume, offset chrono hands etc. QC pics are not for picking tells or things that are present in every example of a model such as spelling errors, happy feet, wrong lume colour etc. These...

forum.replica-watch.info

 

[mrsullivan]

Silly me to actually want to get some insight into the watch. Would rather you provide some insight instead of a read the rules reply. Provide insight into what you can and ignore the rest if you don’t like it. Forgot why I don’t post online.

 

[jfgonzal53]

Sorry guys, not a constant poster anywhere. I read the QC rules and got thrown off by the start where it says they should be made to satisfy YOU, so I inserted my personal concerns (which are ultimately how accurate is this). However, I see that it means to simply request whether right factory and version and per the rules you should be happy with that version at this point. (Didn't see much more as to rules so inserted reddit template in case it was helpful - I don't really post on either forum tbh).

Regarding research, I was confused if V3 ZF was the best or APSF but I think that is a debate in the community (unsure). I also saw that this may not be the right version since I read the carbon is duller on V1/V2, also the "lugs" or inner screws are black and V3 they are metallic.

Nevertheless, just the few responses here were invaluable in confirming my premonition it was not the right version but rather a v1. I am very grateful for that.

 

[Tobel]

Silly me to actually want to get some insight into the watch. Would rather you provide some insight instead of a read the rules reply. Provide insight into what you can and ignore the rest if you don’t like it. Forgot why I don’t post online.

Or alternatively you could consider that there is a reason why there are rules on this forum, that they're not just there to annoy you, and recognise that I took a moment to highlight them to you and explain their basic principles in a polite way.

But hey, your choice

 

[jfgonzal53]

Or alternatively you could consider that there is a reason why there are rules on this forum, that they're not just there to annoy you, and recognise that I took a moment to highlight them to you and explain their basic principles in a polite way.

But hey, your choice

See latest post

 

[rubot1k]

For over 800 you could get a v3, which is miles better than v1
If you want budget option but still good, get from ML Factory, decent build but with movement similar to v1, around 650 bucks

 

[jfgonzal53]

For over 800 you could get a v3, which is miles better than v1
If you want budget option but still good, get from ML Factory, decent build but with movement similar to v1, around 650 bucks

Thanks for the info. You seeing it was V1 helped a lot. I looked over it again and thought the same. Mainly due to the shine of carbon amongst other things.

I’m willing to spend the money for the best one. Consensus I am seeing is APSF is best for ceramic and ZF V3 is best for movement?

Getting some slight push back from QC team saying it isn’t an V1 and sent an email directly to dealer who I have emails from going back to 2016. Anything I could point to apart from what I said above to substantiate it more that it is a V1?

 

[Harolds]

APSF is best for the Carbon but has v1 movement with shiny ribs

ZF is best for white ceramic, and better movement.

 

[rubot1k]

Thanks for the info. You seeing it was V1 helped a lot. I looked over it again and thought the same. Mainly due to the shine of carbon amongst other things.

I’m willing to spend the money for the best one. Consensus I am seeing is APSF is best for ceramic and ZF V3 is best for movement?

Getting some slight push back from QC team saying it isn’t an V1 and sent an email directly to dealer who I have emails from going back to 2016. Anything I could point to apart from what I said above to substantiate it more that it is a V1?

Apsf is best for black carbon ntpt
Zf = white ceramic

Depend on your budget for rm055.

Mass produced ~800 bucks
Zf white ceramic v3 (bruised ribs)
Apsf ntpt (sticker ribs)

Slightly modded ~3k8-4k
Zf case or apsf case
Vaucher clone movement

Full custom 6-7k
Cnc case
Vaucher clone movement

For custom parmigiani, movement ranges from 5k-6k. So maximum price for best setting w/ cnc ranges from 8k to 10k.

To me zf perfected white ceramic no need to spend extra 1k for cnc case so my personal build was zf case x parmigiani which costs around 7k

 

[rubot1k]

Getting some slight push back from QC team saying it isn’t an V1 and sent an email directly to dealer who I have emails from going back to 2016. Anything I could point to apart from what I said above to substantiate it more that it is a V1?

scroll down to bottom they have side by side comparison

Richard Mille RM055 White Ceramic ZF 1:1 Best Edition RMUL2 Super Clone V3 - AMO Watch

ZF Factory Richard Mille RM-055 V3 Version, The White Legend ~ The New King of Watches! With dimensions of 49.90*42.70MM, the white case is developed using

biao6688.com

 

[jfgonzal53]

Thanks Harolds and Rubot.

I was looking at those pages you sent over and they’re great. I’m saving them. Screenshotted your post breakdown - it’s basically what I had summarized but initially I had thought ZF being the best applied to all and not just white ceramic before going deeper after your post.

I think the best for this Asia Edition may be APSF + Vacheron barring going to CNC. Where do you buy that movement and have it installed or do you just buy prebuilt? What dealer do you prefer for something like that?

As far as this transaction, the main thing I am pointing the dealer to as far as why it’s a V1 is the lack of shine of the carbon and also the nuts inside look off. Did you notice anything else?

 

[rubot1k]

Thanks Harolds and Rubot.

I was looking at those pages you sent over and they’re great. I’m saving them. Screenshotted your post breakdown - it’s basically what I had summarized but initially I had thought ZF being the best applied to all and not just white ceramic before going deeper after your post.

I think the best for this Asia Edition may be APSF + Vacheron barring going to CNC. Where do you buy that movement and have it installed or do you just buy prebuilt? What dealer do you prefer for something like that?

Ask TDs (RWI trusted dealers) on the sites, most TDs could source it for you,
Personally i prefer Chinese TDs because geographically nearby, most recently these 2: timekeeper on RWI and Biao (non-TD on rwi).
, just ask if they could do A case x B movement.

As far as this transaction, the main thing I am pointing the dealer to as far as why it’s a V1 is the lack of shine of the carbon and also the nuts inside look off. Did you notice anything else?

~ZF v1 ntpt looks abit like BBR 35-01, it looks more like "wood" pattern, the modern APSF carbon looks more like "coal" effect which more similar to gen
~Shiny metal ribs are sticker, but that's hardly detectable under normal eyes. True bruised ones better at reflect light (will turn darker under lower light condition. Vaucher and Pargiami movement ribs will turn completly dark.
~V1 lacks some metal screws on the skeleton.