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PVD/DLC Removal?

avitt

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In my long quest to find the perfect hard surface coating, there were one or two "research projects" which didn't turn out quite as I had hoped (which is understandable, when you realize that most of the coating houses specialize in tools and industrial parts, and not aesthetic coatings...). One of them was this Hamilton GMT case, which I attempted to have DLC coated using the PACVD process. Unfortunately, the result were unacceptable, with uneven streaks and shadows:

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What to do, what to do?

My first thought was to have the entire case recoated, in the hope that the flaws would be covered up. However, I didn't realize that the DLC coating is actually highly transparent, and the flaws continued to show through the second coating. It became apparent that the only way to solve this problem would be to remove the coating, and start all over.

Last night, I carefully bead-blasted the case with media which was carefully selected to be aggressive enough to remove the hard surface coating, while doing minimal damage to the stainless steel substrate. I am really happy with the results:

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With a little additional polishing, followed by a nice, even glass bead blast, this case will be ready for a new, perfect DLC coat.
 

Vigil

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Did you try using something with LYE in it to dissolve the coating? I have used Easy Off oven cleaner (Original, yellow can only) to remove anodizing before and its just amazing. I wonder if t would work on PVD.
 

avitt

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Vigil said:
Did you try using something with LYE in it to dissolve the coating? I have used Easy Off oven cleaner (Original, yellow can only) to remove anodizing before and its just amazing. I wonder if t would work on PVD.

Diamond Like Carbon coating is a whole different ballgame. It's virtually impervious to most chemicals (like diamond itself).
 

Vigil

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PVD appararantly isn't a big fan of ultrasonic washing with Acetone, I haven't found much in regards to DLC.
 

avitt

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Would you please post any references that you've found regarding the removal of PVD with acetone? If it's practical, that may come in handy...

Also, please let me know if you find a means of chemically removing DLC, as I am unaware of any.
 

avitt

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Update...

Here's the Hamilton case, glass bead blasted, and ready for a new DLC coat:

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I've also had the opportunity to remove the shiny PVD finish from a replica PAM case. The results were very good. There was no deformation of the case, and the lines stayed sharp:

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Here you can see the contrast with the old PVD coating:

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daytona4me

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I would have already lost patience.. :lol:

avitt.. keep it up.. I am so happy you are doing this! :)
 

horologie_unitas

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lots of experience you make there....

are you in the PVD business ?

i like the beadblasted case !
 

avitt

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horologie_unitas said:
lots of experience you make there....

are you in the PVD business ?

i like the beadblasted case !


Thanks!

Yes, I am providing DLC coating services (if you search my posts, you can see exampled of my work). Bead-blasting is part of the process, and I can perform that service as well. And now, I am adding PVD removal to my list of services.
 

avitt

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I almost forgot to update this thread with pictures of the Hamilton GMT case, now that it has been re-coated using my current DLC process:

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Compare these with the pictures at the top of the thread...As you can see, no more streaks, shadows, or blemishes. Perfect recoat.

The bottom line: I can now expand my services to offer the stripping and recoating of damaged or replica PVD coatings.