there are not that many $1000 reps around (assuming we ignore scams and countless hours of modding!!!)
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Fresh out the box reps rarely cost $1000. From our trusted dealers the most you will ever pays is probably $750 for a Tourbillon model with a genuine Seagull Tourbillon movement in them. Some of the higher end brands, possibly Audemars Piquet have reps up in the $400 range.
When a rep starts to cost $1000 you are adding gen parts. Have a search about the forums for projects done by people who do modifying of existing reps or build franken watches.
BKLM - Does Rolex
Spinmaster - Does Rolex Daytonas
Pbdad - does vintagising of a lot of watches, custom jobs, PVD coating etc
LHOOQ - Has some absolutely awesome Franken Rolex's and Tudors
Concepta - Makes amazing IWC watches from gen parts
JMB - Makes some sweet franken rolex and tudor
I'm in the middle of putting together my first Franken rep. A 1601 datejust case based Space Dweller project which I wouldn't have been able to do without the help of a few guys in the above list. And materials alone will probably have cost me $1000 not including movement servicing and assembly.
When a rep starts to cost $1000 you are adding gen parts. Have a search about the forums for projects done by people who do modifying of existing reps or build franken watches.
BKLM - Does Rolex
Spinmaster - Does Rolex Daytonas
Pbdad - does vintagising of a lot of watches, custom jobs, PVD coating etc
LHOOQ - Has some absolutely awesome Franken Rolex's and Tudors
Concepta - Makes amazing IWC watches from gen parts
JMB - Makes some sweet franken rolex and tudor
I'm in the middle of putting together my first Franken rep. A 1601 datejust case based Space Dweller project which I wouldn't have been able to do without the help of a few guys in the above list. And materials alone will probably have cost me $1000 not including movement servicing and assembly.
Have a look at this thread for some high-value reps:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...en-reps-57562?t=57562&highlight=highly+modded
Most of these would be close to or above a grand.
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/...en-reps-57562?t=57562&highlight=highly+modded
Most of these would be close to or above a grand.
mydnytrydr
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Can u feel it?
One characteristic of many gens (including Rolex, Patek, certain Breitlings) that is as telling as their appearance is the "feel" of the watch ... I own a few very convincing reps, and I am very pleased with them ... but when it comes to their "feel" vs. a gen, they miss the mark ... now, I don't own a BK or a WM9, but if and when I do, the touch test is almost as critical as the loupe test for me!
A very few gens are flawed, you can't say most gens are flawed. Anyway if you want to say that kind of thing you'll need to show way more than these few pics
One characteristic of many gens (including Rolex, Patek, certain Breitlings) that is as telling as their appearance is the "feel" of the watch ... I own a few very convincing reps, and I am very pleased with them ... but when it comes to their "feel" vs. a gen, they miss the mark ... now, I don't own a BK or a WM9, but if and when I do, the touch test is almost as critical as the loupe test for me!
Flaws in gens and reps? I suspect every watch ever made, rep or gen, contains some flaws if you examine all the parts under great enough magnification. If you cannot find any flaws on a watch it is just because the many existing flaws are on internal parts, the backside of visible parts or too small to be visible with the naked eye or the magnification power you are using. Of course some flaws are visible to the naked eye. Those are the ones which get most attention and discussion here. Gen owners, I suggest, are too "proud" of their gens to really be interested in looking for or posting photos of the flaws they contain. Who wants to spend $7,000.00 on a mere wristwatch and then post photos of its flaws on line? In contrast rep owners have a stake in looking for and posting photos of the flaws in reps so they know what to avoid in buying their rep. Gen owners have very little interest in knowing what flaws exist or looking for them when they buy a gen. They like to live with the illusion that their gen is "perfect" and worth the money they spent on it. Normal human psychology works against the publication of flaws in gens and for the publication of flaws in reps.
Do gens have flaws? Depends on the piece, doesn't it?
One of ninety thousand subs is one thing.
A dress watch that is in fact hand made (platinum case, MOP dial, diamond markers, engraved bridges and rotor, etc.) is a one of a kind piece of jewelry, IMO.
If it is one of a kind, who has the right to identify any characteristic of it as being flawed, other than the owner?
One man's flaws are another man's marks of character.
Eye of the beholder, and all that. Just my $0.02 USD.
One of ninety thousand subs is one thing.
A dress watch that is in fact hand made (platinum case, MOP dial, diamond markers, engraved bridges and rotor, etc.) is a one of a kind piece of jewelry, IMO.
If it is one of a kind, who has the right to identify any characteristic of it as being flawed, other than the owner?
One man's flaws are another man's marks of character.
Eye of the beholder, and all that. Just my $0.02 USD.
I have a hard time believing Rolex and other high end watchmakers are cranking out flawed watches.
MrYesterday
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Thank you, Donald. You're the only one, apparently, who understood what I meant.
The other guys are missing the WHOLE point of why I said that. I was trying to help a new member out, by warning him about the prevalent "loupe-fiend" syndrome that a lot of people seem to have contracted. I only meant, buy a watch that you like, because there are always going to be flaws if you look hard enough, no matter how much you pay.
:facepalm: Seriously
Sure, and the question at hand is, what constitutes a "flaw"? IMHO that term gets painted with a broad brush in the rep forums.
Here's a thread from one perspective. I only offer it because it has a number of replies from members: http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/walk-down-inconsistency-lane-39845
I am no defender of Rolex nor a detractor or it or of any watch brand. It's just an interesting discussion since we take the smallest of details seriously here.
As always, just my $0.02 USD.
I start to realize that in fact flaws are like personnal tastes. Everyone seems to have his own definition of what a flaw is and how he considers a certain flaw more important than another.
There was a guy on one of the gen forums who sent 3 or 4 new ceramic submariners back to the AD after he went home and looked at them with a loupe. He was being WAY too anal, but there was dust under the crystal, smudges on the hands, misaligned bezels and one had the rehaut engraving off by a 10th of a degree and that was too much for him.
He even went as far as saying he was going to ask rolex if he could go to the factory and "oversee" the watchmaker putting together his watch to make sure there were no mistakes! haha yeah right like anyone in any profession would allow that. The guy was being a bit of a prick, but there definately were some MINOR flaws in the assembly process, but most all were NOT visible with the naked eye.
The way I see it, if you need to bust out the loupe to discover that your new $8000 Rolex isnt "good enough" for you, then maybe you should go build your own watch from scratch and see how it turns out. OR you need to go buy a Patek for $100k and put it in your safe and never wear it.
dizz
He even went as far as saying he was going to ask rolex if he could go to the factory and "oversee" the watchmaker putting together his watch to make sure there were no mistakes! haha yeah right like anyone in any profession would allow that. The guy was being a bit of a prick, but there definately were some MINOR flaws in the assembly process, but most all were NOT visible with the naked eye.
The way I see it, if you need to bust out the loupe to discover that your new $8000 Rolex isnt "good enough" for you, then maybe you should go build your own watch from scratch and see how it turns out. OR you need to go buy a Patek for $100k and put it in your safe and never wear it.
dizz
I read that thread on the Rolex forums. At first people were supporting him in being anal about getting that 'perfect' watch. But soon it turned into the others actually being sensible and saying that with any handmade product you should expect slight imperfections and flaws. In fact that's what distinguishes YOUR watch from anyone elses. I mean look at all the little manufacturing details that make some watches worth so much more than another similar one. Just the slight change in colouring, cracking of the glaze on a dial, or other tiny details.
Also, that guy was a complete douche.
Also, that guy was a complete douche.
Anyone that picky is a dumbass. Just as bad as the douches here that pay $88 bucks and want VIP service and a watch that's a 1:1
I'ts a learning process. Now imagine that guy sweating over a x,000$ watch - what would happen if he bought a car in the high x0,000 or even x00,000 range. What will he do, scrutinize the engine? LOL.
HA HA HA yes that would be good. "Uhm excuse me, i am returning this car because there is a scratched bolt holding the muffer.... " They would tell you to beat it! The guy in that Rolex thread was obviously starting to piss off the AD and they were even trying to refund his money to get him to go away. He was probably doing it on purpose just to be a jerk. I cant see anyone acting that way normally.
Everything in life is flawed to some extent; even each one of us!
Some flaws can be deemed more acceptable to live with than others.
As each of us go through life we should be working to "fix" our own flaws.
"Mod" myself is a good moto whether I wear a gen or a rep watch.
Some flaws can be deemed more acceptable to live with than others.
As each of us go through life we should be working to "fix" our own flaws.
"Mod" myself is a good moto whether I wear a gen or a rep watch.
studio1one
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WTF?
Gens can't have flaws?
of course they acan have flaws, they are made of natural materials, mostly by human beings.
Humans are not perfect and do not create perfection, some Rolexes come out of the fatory not as well built as others, it's the truth.
I have seen misaligned markers, uneven lume and imperfect movement in gen watches.
To say that gens can't have flaws because they are gen is just retarded.
Gens can't have flaws?
of course they acan have flaws, they are made of natural materials, mostly by human beings.
Humans are not perfect and do not create perfection, some Rolexes come out of the fatory not as well built as others, it's the truth.
I have seen misaligned markers, uneven lume and imperfect movement in gen watches.
To say that gens can't have flaws because they are gen is just retarded.
Sorry, who is retarded? Who the hell do you think you are to insult people for no reason??
If the word "flaw" is used to describe something in a rep that differs from a gen, then by definition a gen can't be flawed...
So not only you insult people for no reason, but you also seems to have some understanding difficulties.
studio1one
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I wasn't calling anyone retarded, I was calling the concept that a gen can't be flawed retarded, it wasn't aimed at any individual. If you took it that I was insulting you I apologise, it wasn't meant as a personal sleight.
If you look at a diamond through a loupe and it is not perfect then you call those details flaws. If something is going to break because of an inherent problem, that is called a flaw. If you manufacture something with a defect it is called a flaw.
This means that Gen watches can be and often are flawed. they will not have any tells that is for sure but they will almost always be flawed because otherwise they would be perfect.
I think there must be something lost in translation between native English speakers and non native here.
If you look at a diamond through a loupe and it is not perfect then you call those details flaws. If something is going to break because of an inherent problem, that is called a flaw. If you manufacture something with a defect it is called a flaw.
This means that Gen watches can be and often are flawed. they will not have any tells that is for sure but they will almost always be flawed because otherwise they would be perfect.
I think there must be something lost in translation between native English speakers and non native here.