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[pompompurin's] Tudor Black Bay Bronze Bucherer (blue) from XF Factory unboxing + quick review

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Ordered a Tudor Black Bay Bronze Bucherer (blue) (from XF Factory) for my friend and look what turned up today

Unboxing (striptease?)
Time to do some unboxing and teasing hah

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And out comes the watch with the leather strap + nato strap
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The watch with the stock leather strap
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Comes with a nato strap like gen
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Look at the size difference! (43mm black bay vs 36mm explorer 1)
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Review
First thing to note... I have no experience with the Tudor brand and I have never handled a genuine before so I am a complete noob in this aspect

After unboxing the watch and immediately picking it up, i noticed how crisp the text on the dial is, and it is printed with raised ink (like gen I believe) unlike cheap replica watches that have really flat-looking non-3D text on the dial
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The '3' '6' '9' indices are very well made and shaped imo, and the other indices are polished to shine nicely. Everything looks as gen as my noob experience with Tudor
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I also love how the text on the dial is printed in a very crisp way - no smudges or overrunning ink
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The next thing i immediately tried was the bezel. Unfortunately, there is some play/wobble in the bezel (but I don't know if the gen behaves the same like the rep, and I don't know if the degree of play/wobble is acceptable to gen specs... so take my opinion with a pinch of salt). I also noticed that the rep's bezel insert's pearl doesn't look gen at all - the rep pearl protrudes too much like a pimple that is about to burst. The gen's bezel insert pearl is much flatter by comparison.

After playing with the bezel, i tried changing time on the watch. I noticed that the A2824-2 movement inside has 3 positions - (1) winding, (2) date change, (3) time setting. Since the gen and rep black bay doesn't have a date complication and date window, my OCD gets triggered by realising that the factory has simply shoved an usual A2824-2 inside without changing the keyless setting. So... i think will look into the ways of modifying the movement to make it have 2 crown positions.

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The rose logo on the crown looks well made but I believe the gen should have laser-burnt black engravings (according to google pics?).

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The leather strap is thick although the top layer of the strap looks like it is cracking a bit - i think they used a leather veneer on top to make the strap look like the expensive real deal one

I also believe that the Tudor buckle on the leather strap should have laser-burnt engraving like gen pics from google
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Overall from my noob experience with handling a Tudor, here are the advantages and disadvantages of this watch

Advantage
- QUALITY overall (crisp dial text)
- watch feels hefty on the wrist and it just feels damn good wearing it

Disadvantage
- Bezel insert's pearl protrudes too much like a pimple that is about to burst (according to google pics?) EDIT -> need more pics for confirmation and it doesn't look like a big concern in reality when my friend is wearing the watch
- The movement's crown setting has 3 positions (which includes date setting position) which is useless and unlike gen because the gen/rep watch doesn't have date complication
- The rose logo on the crown looks well made but I believe the gen should have laser-burnt black engravings (according to google pics?) EDIT -> maybe it takes time for the case to patina which will make the engravings darker
- The Tudor buckle on the leather strap should have laser-burnt engraving like gen pics (according to google pics?) EDIT -> same as the above point

In my opinion, this rep watch is definitely worth buying because I have also seen those comparison threads between the gen and rep... and i can really see that this watch is definitely not worth buying in gen (despite the minor OCD flaws from above)
 

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Thanks for sharing!

I am also very annoyed of movements that have the datesetting position - do you know if this is easily fixable?
 

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Thanks for sharing!

I am also very annoyed of movements that have the datesetting position - do you know if this is easily fixable?

No problem!
I think there is one part that needs to be switched in the keyless to make it to 2 crown positions only - but i haven't looked into which part is it yet

I have an ETA 2824-2 lowbeat-converted movement with 2 crown positions so it is definitely possible
 

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Was expecting an onion in that unboxing!

Nice review. You don’t need to worry about the crown engraving - while it is black on the steel variants, the bronze is just engraving:
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Can you take a picture of the pearl side on to see the pimpliness?
 

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Was expecting an onion in that unboxing!

Nice review. You don’t need to worry about the crown engraving - while it is black on the steel variants, the bronze is just engraving:
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Can you take a picture of the pearl side on to see the pimpliness?

The tudor rose engraving on the crown seems to look a lot darker in a lot of google pics (see below how light it is in the rep)

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as for the pearl, the gen seems to look a lot flatter like this?
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I would guess that the shade of the crown does not really pose a problem, since it will develop patina anyway. The darker retail crown may be even due to already developed patina?
 

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I would guess that the shade of the crown does not really pose a problem, since it will develop patina anyway. The darker retail crown may be even due to already developed patina?

Ahhh good point there! Yes i forgot about how the bronze will develop patina over time. I guess I will have to let my friend wear the watch and let it age with time
 

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A lot of tudors have the annoying slight bezel wobble out the factory - a lot of people have resolved it just by popping the bezel off and reseating the gasket
 

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A lot of tudors have the annoying slight bezel wobble out the factory - a lot of people have resolved it just by popping the bezel off and reseating the gasket

Do you know if a lot of gens also have this problem?

If a lot of gens also have this problem from factory, then there is no need to fix this problem :D
 

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Do you know if a lot of gens also have this problem?

If a lot of gens also have this problem from factory, then there is no need to fix this problem :D

sad to say I haven't owned a lot of gens to speak with authority on this, but almost certainly not. good job it's a relatively simple fix!
 

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sad to say I haven't owned a lot of gens to speak with authority on this, but almost certainly not. good job it's a relatively simple fix!

Gonna borrow my friends kitchen knife and see if I can pop the bezel off + reseat the gasket when I go to his place later lol
 

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Make sure to post some update pics after it's had some time to age and develop patina!
 

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I guess this is one of your few, if not only watch that's not a build?
 

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Thanks for sharing!

I am also very annoyed of movements that have the datesetting position - do you know if this is easily fixable?

I did some digging and it seems like this part needs to replaced:

If you want to remove the date change position when you pull the crown, you need: set bridge ETA 2801-2 445/1327

And I also looked here
http://forums.watchuseek.com/f6/modifying-eta-2824-2-a-763882.html

which corroborates with the quote from above
 

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@pompompurin I have the black bay red and I was surprised about the bezel play when I first got it, it was the first time I'd used a 60 click bezel. After trying the genuine bezel I realized they were not that different

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