Planet Ocean Modding Project: Gen hands and dial

[SilverSurfer]

Hi Guys,

A couple of questions regarding the Planet Ocean.

I would like to put together a Planet Ocean and I have some questions for the experts since I know nothing about movements, date placement and hands fitting.

If I get a Ultimate PO ETA version will the gen dial and hands fit the 45 mm version? and the 42 mm?
Will the date window be in place?

Will the project be impossible to accomplish without spending in a very expensive movement? What movement should I be looking for?

I´d appreciate if you can give me some advice and/or links where I can read about this type of project...

Thanks for reading.

SS

 

[hooligan]

I don't know it for a fact, but I understand that the gen dial won't work with the 45.5mm UPO. The date window doesn't line up, apparently. I think the gen 42mm dial works, though.

I'm sure some of the Omeeeeeega experts will chime in here.....

 

[pineypl]

I think hooligan is right. Last I checked Ofrei, there is not a gen 45.5mm dial available through them and I recall reading here the 42mm is the one you can gen dial.

Just so you know, the gen dial is $200, which is close to the cost of the ETA version PO!!!

 

[SilverSurfer]

Thanks for the responses...

According to the Omeeega web,
the reference for the big size PO is 2900.50.91 (Caliber: Omega 2500)
and for the normal one is 2209.50.00 (Caliber: Omega 2500)

and in ofrei the seem to have dials for both models

hxxp://www.ofrei.com/page1123.html

Both are from the same movement right? So if the rep PO 42 has the same movement as the 45 version, it could be possible??

 

[SilverSurfer]

Hi pineypl! I know is quite expensive, I was just wondering how much a project like this would cost (if possible). If it can be done for around 400 maybe I´d like to go for it... PO is one of my favs

I think hooigan is right. Last I checked Ofrei, there is not a gen 45.5mm dial available through them and I recall reading here the 42mm is the one you can gen dial.

Just so you know, the gen dial is $200, which is close to the cost of the ETA version PO!!!

 

[cableguy]

Please guys...if you aren't sure please dont say its not possible....


Ziggy HAS installed the GEN Dial on the uPO and he says its fine.....

He has also said the Gen Hands and uPO hands are almost no difference, but the LUME. so just get the uPO hands relumed.

hope this helps

 

[daytona4me]

LOL, I was just going to post a thread about this. Glad I used the search feature! :lol:

 

[crick]

Gen Hands for both uPO and 42mm will fit ETA as the so called Omega CAL used is a modified 2892 ETA. (basically their co-axial escapement is the major modifcation. Dumped the old lever escapments )

ETA fits with ETA.

Dial should be no problem too for a 42mm - ask tak! (and as stated above, Ziggy did a 45)

But one thing with the 42 though is in regards to gen bEzEL insert. Wont fit on a rep. The Gen insert is slightly smaller so it wont even go past the xstal. It's like .5mm difference.

 

[austin870]

Several articles say the dial will not work on the 45mm. It is said the date window does not line up and cannot be modified. You can enhance it nicely with the gen crystal with double AR and new hands. These are not cheap gen componants.

I think it was like $650 for the gen dial, bezel, crystal and hands. Not counting all the labor or the watch itself. Add a relume and you are well over a grand. I decided getting my rep crystal double sided AR and the hands at $35 was fine with me. When they finally correct the logo I might get another rep dial or a whole new watch for less than the gen dial.

 

[SilverSurfer]

I did as well, but I got way too many results and nothing specific in the threats I read

Could you please post some links to the related threats

Thank you very mucho

LOL, I was just going to post a thread about this. Glad I used the search feature! :lol:

 

[SilverSurfer]

Then maybe is not worth to spend all that money, huh? way over budget....

Just a question, why should it be relumed? Dont the gen hands and dial have good lume?

Several articles say the dial will not work on the 45mm. It is said the date window does not line up and cannot be modified. You can enhance it nicely with the gen crystal with double AR and new hands. These are not cheap gen componants.

I think it was like $650 for the gen dial, bezel, crystal and hands. Not counting all the labor or the watch itself. Add a relume and you are well over a grand. I decided getting my rep crystal double sided AR and the hands at $35 was fine with me. When they finally correct the logo I might get another rep dial or a whole new watch for less than the gen dial.

 

[vaccum]

I have done a few and the gen hands will fit both 42 and 45
Dial will fit also I have done it.....sorry no pics.

vac

 

[SilverSurfer]

Great!

Thanks Vac!!

I have done a few and the gen hands will fit both 42 and 45
Dial will fit also I have done it.....sorry no pics.

vac

 

[austin870]

The guys with the extreme magnification will say the hands length is off but not noticable with the naked eye. The lume is the usual weaker rep lume. If you do a lot of "in the dark" watch lume comparrisons/shows this may be a concern to you. Although you might save $10 on having the rep hands lumed instead of buying new ones, many may not take a job that small.

http://www.rwg.cc/members/index.php?sho ... l=gen+dial Here are the gen hand part numbers for Ofrei's. This also has Ziggy saying it is no problem to replace the dial. It appears only our local "rep smiths" have done the replacement so you know who to go to.

If you go this route you might as well address the easily stripped crown and tube that you should replace if you dump over $1000 into one. I am thinking you are well over $1000 without the lume or crown/tube, which is another $100+. You might also service the rep or move to gen on the movement...... you can see where all this goes. It only ends where your common sense or money do and you still will not have a gen. It is however a great learning experience and fun.

 

[crick]

i can see doing a hand replacement - not that pricey... dial replacement is pricey... and some say kinda worth it and others sya "mehhhhh i might as well save up for hte gen, it's not too far off after that"

like austin said, depends how much u want to spend/time invest/etc.

 

[SilverSurfer]

the logo is the first flaw I´d like to fix (just cant live with it)

Maybe an alternative is to get an ETA UPO and fit a dial from Silix´s with the correct logo (hopping I can get one from him).
Anyone can post some pics of his watch? How´s the lume? is good as the other dealers' UPO?
Is the Casino Royale dial same as the standard PO??

Cheers,

SS

 

[crick]

if you go that route might as well get a gen dial and not worry about the cost of reluming?

 

[austin870]

I am pretty sure I heard the gen dial won't fit on the 45mm Silix model with the better logo. If the gen does not fit the Silix I have reservations if the Silix will drop into the UPO. His hands are noticably off and I thought there are other things wrong with the Silix dial. Number font/size or something. It was the old one step forward and two steps back.

 

[pineypl]

So a gen dial and gen hands sets you back about $250. A UPO with ETA movement is about $250. You got $500 in and it is damn close to exact, not too bad in my opinion, assuming the gen dial is available and properly matches date window in the 45mm version.

I think on the rep dial and hands you are looking about $150 for relume, so to me, the jump to gen dial and gen hands at $250 is worth the $100 difference, perhaps more due to S&H.

Is the logo that bad? You probably see it on your wrist, but I am sure someone looking at the watch will not be able to tell.

I have the ETA version and it is really SMOOTH on the sweep. That long second hand I think accentuates the smooth motion of the sweep to the point of being mesmerizing. I am not sure why I added this paragraph, must be subliminal....

FWIW, this is one rep that has me thinking I should save up watch funds and drop it on the real deal. :?

 

[SilverSurfer]

Good point there pineypl...

Maybe I should just get an UPO ETA and get a SMP chrono with the rest of the money, so when I rememeber the PO logo flaw I just go pick up the SMP chrono and relax!

Cheers!

SS