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Perfect Clones / www.1-pc8838.com FRAUD!

drbollocko

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This thread makes me wonder if some people are either to lazy to do a cursory amount of research on the in's and out's of rep collecting, or if they really are ignorant toothless hilbillies, thinking they should have a watch the same day they buy it even though it is 5% of the retail price and a well made knockoff? Must be a combo of both. Thank heavens they are the minority, or we would not be here to enjoy the hobby.


Just read the thread, quite funny :D totally agree, some people just do not belong in the rep game, the OP was one of them, there are plenty of others these days unfortunately. There are also growing numbers who have no idea where the search functions are on any of the forums, how in gods name they made it to the forums is beyond me, in fact, the fact that the mastered how to use google must have been a monumentus occasion in their life :D
 

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I was reading through this thread and did some checking on Josh, as theres a U-boat Ive been trying to get for a while thats a black pod case with steel bezel, A7750 movement and thought I'd go through Joshua.

All was going well and he even said he accepts Paypal now. WELL, after a couple of hours during emails and me actually placing an order; the paypal option was gone. Only Visa, Moneygram M/C and Western Union. He said "I lost my paypal accounts this morning"

Suspect? He says he now only accepts Mastercard. I just find that real suss and convenient, but don't want to jump the gun. Im over in AU and this of course, is my maiden post :) Was cursing to say the least and don't know if I should go through with the transaction or not; worried Im going to get shafted. I did get done by one company 2 weeks ago who delivered this hunk of pvd rubbish to me (the bastards) and had a stink with paypal to get my money back. I won, but I gotta send this rubbish back first....

Annnnnnyway, back to Josh. What should I do??

This really isn't a big problem, because you haven't sent any money yet! You can either pay Josh through MC or whatever, as he is a trusted dealer on at least one other forum and isn't going to scam you. Or, like someone else mentioned, just send the description of the watch you want to another dealer who is trusted on RWI and they can get it for you, easy.

I have no doubts about Josh's trustworthiness or reliability, and in fact I ordered my first rep ever from him over a year ago and the process was problem free. However, some of his posts and emails suggest to me that he might possibly have an anger management or drinking problem, or maybe both. Probably both.
 

drbollocko

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All was going well and he even said he accepts Paypal now. WELL, after a couple of hours during emails and me actually placing an order; the paypal option was gone. Only Visa, Moneygram M/C and Western Union. He said "I lost my paypal accounts this morning"

Suspect?

Not at all suspect, it's possible he did lose his PP, wouldn't be the first time. This usually comes from people like the OP on this thread doing chargebacks etc.



Josh and andrew are two of the oldest in the business and even though some forums have their issues which is fair enough (they have their reasons) the still are some of the best around at communication, speed of shipping and comeback support if something goes wrong. Sure they cost more, for some watches though...with some dealers the saving of $40 isn't
worth the headache.
 

krispee

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i have had two orders with Josh over a short period of time and he`s great, as long as you are straight with the guy are professional in your dealings he`s professional with you, and fast, especially when you agree to the QC pics, no problems with him at all....
he`s not so happy with my impatience though that`s all down to me lol....
i`m learning to be a bit more patient with the whole process....

Kris
 

ugoderosa

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Josh can be a bit feisty and his emails can make him appear to be impatient. However, Josh has never let me down and is 100% honest. He does have his PP account pulled from time to time but it is not his fault. He is prompt with his pm's and delivers quality product. He is my go-to dealer and I have spent thousands with him over the last few years without any issues.

Just don't send him endless emails asking for updates and don't try to negotiate prices with him. Be patient and you will get your watch.
 

dustindu4

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perfect88clones is not Joshua. His web site is in the first post of this thread.
 

Bardamu

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Perfect Clones is Joshua. But the website name is now the one in the first post (pc88). When you go on his site, the name "Perfect Clones" still appears at the head of page.
 

kinjomusashi

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This is only the second post i've read on this forum after joining and, damn....that was entertaining. Glad the dude got banned in the end. His racist comment:

"maybe my short request has been too much for his chinese mind"

wtf...had to read it twice to make sure my eyes weren't playing tricks on me being so late at night...

Nazi inspired racism from an actual German on a watch forum, now that's gotta be an internet first.
 

cybee

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Whew what a way to spend a Saturday.

Welp I learned two things from this whole shebang of a thread:

1. Knoxville got the ban hammer and

2. Josh is actually Jewish.

:biglaugh:
 

Muaitai

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I read this thread from the beginning and after finished the only thing I can do is watch the UFC fight, good night.


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ThinkBachs

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I read the thread title, clicked the first page, saw Banned, clicked to the last page, posted this, looked up to watch a little Star Wars, and now I'm clicking Post Quick Reply.........

Wait!

Almost forgot to post a pic that my GF sent me!

sexy-iphone-girls-banned-hollywood-56.jpg
 

Xtian

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I read the thread title, clicked the first page, saw Banned, clicked to the last page, posted this, looked up to watch a little Star Wars, and now I'm clicking Post Quick Reply.........

Wait!

Almost forgot to post a pic that my GF sent me!

sexy-iphone-girls-banned-hollywood-56.jpg

damn! I'm in :wub: with your GF! Please ask her to send me one..with a different pose this time :biglaugh:
 

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Hello,
I placed an order from 1-pc8838.com a few days ago and i made the payment through Paypal. Then Josh sent me an email QC photos and after that i realized that he sent me a wrong shipping address which is totally different. Today i sent him an email about this issue and he suddenly stopped replying my emails. When i track the package i see that it is on way to Japan! (i live in USA)
I kindly wrote to him that his attitude made me panic. When i did not get any reply again then i wrote that i would open a dispute on paypal.
But still he did not replied and so on i opened a dispute on Paypal now. What should i do anyone can help me pls?
 

sharrkey

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Seriously :facepalm: god help our dealers with you around:spank: