PAM441

[ztar]

Above you have all the links
Check it by yourself

ALE

ALE what do think about the bracelet? I mean pam dont sell the ceramic OEM bracelet... Is it good?
Also does the steel bracelet from reps have good quality? I was wondering about buying one to my gen cose an OEM bracelet is about 1k$ :S

 

[ALE7575]

Rep ceramic bracelet of PAM 438 is really good
Some Rep bracelets are really good too, like PAM 299 bracelet

ALE

 

[ztar]

Rep ceramic bracelet of PAM 438 is really good
Some Rep bracelets are really good too, like PAM 299 bracelet

ALE

Comparing the bracelet of 299rep vs gen how do you rate it?

 

[ALE7575]

Comparing the bracelet of 299rep vs gen how do you rate it?

85-88% bearing in mind fitting, smoothness and quality and working of the clap
95% in appearance.

ALE

 

[Chromeburn]

@Chromeburn

PAM 438 and 441 bodies are the same, leaving aside movement which is black painted on PAM 438. The rest is the same in gen and reps

The most interesting purchase IMO is a PAM 438 with the ceramic bracelet, because for few more money you get an awesome ceramic bracelet, very difficult and most likely expensive to be gotten after the purchase.
You can always buy a leather strap and transform your PAM 438 on a PAM 441 (with black movement, invisible on the wrist)

The best option would be KW PAM 438 with decorated Seagull NON-inverted

ALE

thanks Ale, I picked the 438 after all so I could get the ceramic strap. Plus I like the black movement instead of silver. It took some translating but I got the 438 o ceramic lite V6F from Angus. I went with the 23j movement instead of the A7750. I believe that is the seagull movement. Thanks for the help.

 

[ztar]

85-88% bearing in mind fitting, smoothness and quality and working of the clap
95% in appearance.

ALE

And does that bracelet fits on a GEN 312?

 

[ALE7575]

And does that bracelet fits on a GEN 312?

I'm affraid not. The cases are completely different
PAM 299 has Luminor Bettarini and PAM 312 has Luminor 1950

ALE

 

[ztar]

I'm affraid not. The cases are completely different
PAM 299 has Luminor Bettarini and PAM 312 has Luminor 1950

ALE

Im looking a bracelet for my gen 312, any sugestion what should I get? I want something with quality

 

[ALE7575]

Im looking a bracelet for my gen 312, any sugestion what should I get? I want something with quality

The only possibilities are the rep bracelets of PAM 328 and PAM 329
But I cannot assure rep bracelet will fit the gen directly or maybe with some modifications...

ALE

 

[Junger]

Which has better fit and finish? Like date wheel centered, things aligned, etc... KW (aka V6F) or ZF for either Pam441 or Pam438? And which movement is better 7750 or ST? I could care less about one looking more accurate to gen from the back side of the watch. Which is more reliable? Also, any GMT out there that is 12 hr, not 24 hr?