PAM417 & PAM416 [HWF]

[KOT1917]

Good day.
The HWF factory has given a new reissue of the famous boutique SUPEREP.
There are only two so far, but let's see if "any factory" of a boutique edition will be excellent?

Let the photos speak:

https://trustytime.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_403&products_id=22550

https://trustytime.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=37_403&products_id=22551

 

[Orev]

I noticed these too. Interesting huh


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[panerisky]

Are they super rep class?

 

[KOT1917]

I meant that before this implementation, everyone, except, probably, DSN made these boutique models at the superrep level.
This factory is not showing its best side yet, but here is another model that can be made perfectly.

There are some questions about the shape of the case, but it is better to discuss them not with these photos, but when someone receives and photographs them. The numbers and markers are thicker. Previously, these models were extremely popular, I have never had them, and I am sure that excellent KW holders, for example, will be happy to express their more practical opinion.

While we see modern hands, instead of pre-v

The engraving fonts lack at least depth, and the picture is better compared with other factories, because with gen here it is.

Perhaps, as with the picture, this is the specifics of lighting, but with CG, as with other implementations, not everything is in order

 

[CurioLeo]

The movement is comically bad. To the earlier question , no it is definitely not a super rep.

 

[KOT1917]

Just to remind what seemed gen.
https://youtu.be/jXN2pPgs4ls

Regarding movt., I did not expect to ever see 6497 made as OP.I, with Y incablock, but up to this point, with solid caseback, in general it does not matter how it looks.

I think, rcom440 ,having KW, can say more about the specifics of this rep, although overall, it is clear that HWF is losing.

 

[sukwonee]

KOT1917

What's the issue with CG? Are you thinking the cut out window is too big?

It's interesting they chose not to include decorated movement but I don't really see this as a tell either. In fact, if they can offer the watch at a lower price by not including the engraving, I am down.

 

[KOT1917]

KOT1917

What's the issue with CG? Are you thinking the cut out window is too big?

It's interesting they chose not to include decorated movement but I don't really see this as a tell either. In fact, if they can offer the watch at a lower price by not including the engraving, I am down.

Yes, I mean it. It's hard to tell from this photo, but it seems to me that the CG is generally larger, and the cutout is larger in all directions.

By the way, they have lowered prices for all HWFs.
This is not much, but better.

 

[sukwonee]

Yes, I mean it. It's hard to tell from this photo, but it seems to me that the CG is generally larger, and the cutout is larger in all directions.

By the way, they have lowered prices for all HWFs.
This is not much, but better.

I think you may be onto something.

My eyes are trained to only see the little variances between some of the more known rep factory versions that when something is just completely flat out wrong, I am not able to even notice via pics lol.

The shape of the CG and how it sits on the watch seemed okay to me but I did notice the window being too big (vertically and horizontally). Maybe the entire CG construction and size are off as you say.

 

[KOT1917]

I think you may be onto something.

My eyes are trained to only see the little variances between some of the more known rep factory versions that when something is just completely flat out wrong, I am not able to even notice via pics lol.

The shape of the CG and how it sits on the watch seemed okay to me but I did notice the window being too big (vertically and horizontally). Maybe the entire CG construction and size are off as you say.

Yes, it's not entirely clear in this lighting. I think for $ 218 someone will decide to buy this, and will post good photos, then it will already be possible to evaluate.

It's just that the free space on the crown advertisement can be the effect of the fact that the light falls only in the middle, and the sides remain in the dark, so it may seem that there is too much space on the sides. But the cutout height is clearly too high.

 

[papabear244]

Wow, that undecorated movement looks really sloppy. That same movement can be had in Aliexpress for 30 dollars.
KOT1917 what so you think about the Crystal in HWF? It was said the KW A had a violetish tint, like in gen. Personally, I prefer colorless AR, so that would be one aspect I don’t mind them getting wrong. ????

 

[KOT1917]

I have not seen not only live 416/417, but not even a single QC set here on the forum, papabear244 .

But I believe that the crystals are the same for all their models.
You can see photos of PAM1085 and PAM634 posted by 2021Mark in their respective threads. The photos are good and I think they can shape your attitude towards AR quality on the crystal at this factory.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...mare-hwf/page2

https://forum.replica-watch.info/for...-777-915/page2

 

[papabear244]

Thank you KOT. It does, and I am very happy with how it looks. I'm sure they will make a v2 and decorate the movement.

 

[Lagunax]

I remember buying 3 of these Las Vegas version for a guy’s Vegas trip from Toro for $129 each!

 

[papabear244]

I remember buying 3 of these Las Vegas version for a guy’s Vegas trip from Toro for $129 each!

You mean a V6F or an HF? I don't think HWF has a Vegas caseback version.
EDIT: Nvm, I just realized how silly that question was, those can't be found anymore and wouldn't go for $129 anyways.

 

[Lagunax]

$198 on trustytime now:
https://trustytime.io/index.php?mai...t&search_in_description=1&keyword=HWF&x=0&y=0