PAM411 KW

[Pappashango]

Hi All

I have just received my 411 KW from Lucy and given the recent issues with the boutique dials from KW factory having the wrong colour - tobacco brown like the pam390 instead of black - I just wanted to get peoples opinion on my dial and whether the colour is correct or not? It looks black to my eyes but I've never seen a tobacco dial in the flesh so having nothing to compare with. Thanks for any help you can give!


QC Pics From Lucy:-

Attempt to show the dial in different lighting conditions (sorry for the crappy quality!):-

Comparison with Black Dialled Marina Militare:-

 

[nicktan182]

that's definitely black mate. I just got mine in from Sead and it's one of my favorites. especially with the Firenze engraving on the back

 

[Norrie]

Black as bro.

 

[ALE7575]

This dial is black. No worries about that
ALE

 

[ALE7575]

Could we have pics of the lug profile from 3 and 9 and lug joining the case from 12 and 6 ??

Thanks in advance
ALE

 

[Pappashango]

Thanks for your response guys! Loving the wqtch, excellent quality and overall "feel" to it!

ALE thanks I am away this weekend but will post some pictures of lug profile when I get back. Are you concerned that the lugs don't look right or simply after some more pictures? I will try and get some better ones from my slr!

 

[ALE7575]

Thanks for your response guys! Loving the wqtch, excellent quality and overall "feel" to it!

ALE thanks I am away this weekend but will post some pictures of lug profile when I get back. Are you concerned that the lugs don't look right or simply after some more pictures? I will try and get some better ones from my slr!

No, I'm not at all concerned. And the QC pics remember me what I felt when I received my "old" KW PAM 417 and got impressed.

Old KW lugs were OK enough, but I think KW and V6FAC have improved the shape of the lugs and I would like to confirm it in this watch

No worries about the quality your watch looks awesome
Congrats
ALE

 

[PeterRei]

Quick and quite dirty pics of the current case.

 

[ALE7575]

Thanks Peter Rei

It seems that the lug shape is already corrected in last cases from KW-V6fac. And even the position of the lug holes
This case is very similar to the case of new Noob PAM 390

What do you think guys ??

ALE

 

[kilowattore]

This KW case looks good indeed, I'm having a hard time deciding which of the latest cases is better:

Noob:



KW




New H-Fac:

Noob case looks to have slightly "softer" edges, Kw and H-fac are very similar imho, at least from the pics I saw so far of this new H case.

 

[ALE7575]

Many thanks Kilo for the input and the pics

That seen and said, I actually have to say that I'm some time ago thinking all the new cases are the same !!

And that makes sense: Only a case from the same supplier and three "makers"

Seeing your pics and other similar about the same matter I think Noob V3 is a thing of the past

I would like to get more inputs and opinions

Thanks in advance
ALE

 

[mo_ky]

Very nice watch, where did you get it from? Who is Lucy? Thanks in advance, I'm new here!

Hi All

I have just received my 411 KW from Lucy and given the recent issues with the boutique dials from KW factory having the wrong colour - tobacco brown like the pam390 instead of black - I just wanted to get peoples opinion on my dial and whether the colour is correct or not? It looks black to my eyes but I've never seen a tobacco dial in the flesh so having nothing to compare with. Thanks for any help you can give!


QC Pics From Lucy:-

Attempt to show the dial in different lighting conditions (sorry for the crappy quality!):-

Comparison with Black Dialled Marina Militare:-

 

[Pappashango]

Hi mo_ky, Lucy is a TD - Truetime168 in the dealer section. She is highly recommended

 

[Pappashango]

ALE, some additional pictures. Hopefully they are usefull to you!

 

[ALE7575]

Thanks Pappashango
It seems a nice case a very accurate
It seems the same quality, and even the same mid-case, as new H maker

However the bezel seems more accurate in this KW-V6fac version


ALE

 

[Bozz]

New KW caseset looks amazing!

 

[ALE7575]

New KW caseset looks amazing!

The mid-case is very similar but the bezel seems more accurate

ALE

 

[cal8500]

@Pappashango & all:

I have a 417 and want to know: Is it possible at your 411 (and in general), to wind the crown, if lever is engaged?

 

[pacecar2121]

@Pappashango & all:

I have a 417 and want to know: Is it possible at your 411 (and in general), to wind the crown, if lever is engaged?

It's generally possible on all crown-guard-lever equipped Pam's, but winding the crown with the lever engaged is not advisable. Causes unnecessary wear to to contacting parts that otherwise wouldn't wear badly with the cg lever open

 

[cal8500]

but winding the crown with the lever engaged is not advisable.

That's qiuet logical (to me).

I rather asked this^^^, because at my 417, winding with engaged lever is pretty easy, almost as on loose lever (CG fit's perfekt and lever, too)! So I am not sure, if the watch is sealed at all? I Know, it's not waterresistand, but at least 3 atm, it should.

First I thought, this is in case of the gasket at the back of the crown, but now I am not sure, if there is a gasket at all (I don't see anyone)?

For example: I read about some Gen's, where it's impossible to wind the crown with engaged lever.