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PAM388 - First purchase...

ALE7575

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I'm about to approve my Pam 388 but wouldn't mind a second opinion. Does the crystal look scratched at the edge of 11 o'clock?
Also does the crown look a bit tarnished and uneven? The other stuff looks like dust. Hope i'm not offside by asking this, but I read a qc guide saying I could bounce this off you guys?
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And less with such a questions
Please be carefull

ALE
 

EkaSN

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You will not get disappointed
These reps have a strong gen-like appearance

ALE

Hello friend..which one do you prefer? 312 or 388? since both of them share same movement..
And the best 388 is KW-V6Fac O-series w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2 right?
 

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Hello friend..which one do you prefer? 312 or 388? since both of them share same movement..
And the best 388 is KW-V6Fac O-series w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2 right?

They are seemingly similar but actually very different due to the case and lugs
The quality is really similar and the same with the gen-like appearance
You should choose following your taste. Bear in mind that PAM 312 wear a lot more than PAM 388 and PAM 388 is more dressing that PAM 312

KW-V6Fac is the best version either with Seagull NON-Inverted or A7750 NON-inverted, again a taste matter

ALE
 

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Agree with what [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION] says and see if you prefer the Luminor 1950 (PAM312) or Radiomir (PAM388) more.
Hello friend..which one do you prefer? 312 or 388? since both of them share same movement..
And the best 388 is KW-V6Fac O-series w/decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2 right?
 

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They are seemingly similar but actually very different due to the case and lugs
The quality is really similar and the same with the gen-like appearance
You should choose following your taste. Bear in mind that PAM 312 wear a lot more than PAM 388 and PAM 388 is more dressing that PAM 312

KW-V6Fac is the best version either with Seagull NON-Inverted or A7750 NON-inverted, again a taste matter

ALE

Thank you a lot friend..
I will buy the PAM 388, since you said its good candidate replica in your guide..but not being said for 312..

Agree with what @ALE7575 says and see if you prefer the Luminor 1950 (PAM312) or Radiomir (PAM388) more.
Thank you for the opinion my friend..
 

EkaSN

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They are seemingly similar but actually very different due to the case and lugs
The quality is really similar and the same with the gen-like appearance
You should choose following your taste. Bear in mind that PAM 312 wear a lot more than PAM 388 and PAM 388 is more dressing that PAM 312

KW-V6Fac is the best version either with Seagull NON-Inverted or A7750 NON-inverted, again a taste matter

ALE

Hi ALE,
which one do you prefer? seagull or 7750? and how about the reliability?
Sorry for disturbing you with so many dumb questions..
 

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Hi ALE,
which one do you prefer? seagull or 7750? and how about the reliability?
Sorry for disturbing you with so many dumb questions..


I actually prefer the Seagull, visually more accurate and, at least, as reliable as the A7750
Besides it usually is cheaper

But lastly there are some claims regarding stuttering second hands on Seagulls

Finally, as always, a taste and luck matter

ALE
 

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I actually prefer the Seagull, visually more accurate and, at least, as reliable as the A7750
Besides it usually is cheaper

But lastly there are some claims regarding stuttering second hands on Seagulls

Finally, as always, a taste and luck matter

ALE
Ok ALE, really appreciate your answer..
I think I will buy the 388 with seagull..
Thank you very much!
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EkaSN

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I actually prefer the Seagull, visually more accurate and, at least, as reliable as the A7750
Besides it usually is cheaper

But lastly there are some claims regarding stuttering second hands on Seagulls

Finally, as always, a taste and luck matter

ALE

Hi ALE,
I couldnt find the seagull one in Indonesia..
So I will pick the 7750..but I couldnt find the information in your guide..
7750 non inverted isnt in there..

Thank you for your help..
 

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Hi ALE,
I couldnt find the seagull one in Indonesia..
So I will pick the 7750..but I couldnt find the information in your guide..
7750 non inverted isnt in there..

Thank you for your help..

Try asking dealers
But maybe the A7750 NON-inverted was not released and you have going to inverted version

ALE
 

EkaSN

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Try asking dealers
But maybe the A7750 NON-inverted was not released and you have going to inverted version

ALE

I got this picture from my TD..I think its non inverted version right?
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Yes.
You are a lucky man
This is A7750 NON-inverted version

ALE

Sorry ALE,
I just realized, i think its not KW right?
I think my TD get me wrong picture for KW..
All I want is KW as your guide
 

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Sorry ALE,
I just realized, i think its not KW right?
I think my TD get me wrong picture for KW..
All I want is KW as your guide


Sorry, I was conditioned by your first post and I didn,t check the maker
You are right this NON-inverted is a ZFac movement

So, not so lucky man ... LOL

ALE
 

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Sorry, I was conditioned by your first post and I didn,t check the maker
You are right this NON-inverted is a ZFac movement

So, not so lucky man ... LOL

ALE

Haha, I am waiting for your reply for every 3 hours LOL
so my last chance are
(KW-V6Fac O-series w/decorated A7750 Inverted) with KW V2 caseset
or
(ZFac O-series w/decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5) right?
Which are better ALE? because as i read, the KW case is superior,
but inverted one make the movement not reliable than non inverted in ZF..
 

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Haha, I am waiting for your reply for every 3 hours LOL
so my last chance are
(KW-V6Fac O-series w/decorated A7750 Inverted) with KW V2 caseset
or
(ZFac O-series w/decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5) right?
Which are better ALE? because as i read, the KW case is superior,
but inverted one make the movement not reliable than non inverted in ZF..


I prefer KWversion this is the rep PAM 312 that I have in my collection, even with A7750 Inverted movement

The inverted movement is as reliable o more than a NON-inverted (it has less modifications). The NON-inverted is just visually more accurate

ALE
 

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Hi EkaSN, by any chance if indeed you found what you're looking for, please share them here in this thread. I'm itching to get one 388 myself haha.
Been searching high and low for a 029 v2 super rep but seems like nobody is selling them anymore except a couple of Indonesian and Chinese dealers who claims they still have some left in stock.
Problem is, I've no idea how to tell if they're indeed by noob let alone an M series V2. So I guess I'm throwing in my towel.
Btw, ALE :) are you able to differentiate and tell whether the 029 is from noob if I were to show multiple angled pictures of the watch here?
Thanks EkaSN and ALE :)
I'll be eyeing this thread like a hawk. Lol
 

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I prefer KWversion this is the rep PAM 312 that I have in my collection, even with A7750 Inverted movement

The inverted movement is as reliable o more than a NON-inverted (it has less modifications). The NON-inverted is just visually more accurate

ALE

Thank you ALE, I'll stick to your guidance

Hi EkaSN, by any chance if indeed you found what you're looking for, please share them here in this thread. I'm itching to get one 388 myself haha.
Been searching high and low for a 029 v2 super rep but seems like nobody is selling them anymore except a couple of Indonesian and Chinese dealers who claims they still have some left in stock.
Problem is, I've no idea how to tell if they're indeed by noob let alone an M series V2. So I guess I'm throwing in my towel.
Btw, ALE :) are you able to differentiate and tell whether the 029 is from noob if I were to show multiple angled pictures of the watch here?
Thanks EkaSN and ALE :)
I'll be eyeing this thread like a hawk. Lol

Of course REPLAY, ALE really helps me a lot..
just waiting for my TD to get this beauty, if it still available I think..
Do you have Indonesian TD? Mind to share?