PAM312L 1:1 edition coming soon

[QinetiQ]

I doubt Panerai are using Superluminova. They must be using something in house or some special powder...That's just me though. My Top Gun is superlumed with Luminova and it does glow bright but as bright as you say Boudard's 177 glows

 

[Dr.Verylong]

I have a 177h relumed with Superluminova (according to the seller) and on bright days it glows in sunshine, too, if you look closely. Looks gorgeous IMHO but a gen is a gen.

 

[QinetiQ]

Dang why doesn't my Top Gun glow like that?

 

[Wiz]

I doubt Panerai are using Superluminova. They must be using something in house or some special powder...That's just me though. My Top Gun is superlumed with Luminova and it does glow bright but as bright as you say Boudard's 177 glows

I remember reading on risti that they do use a custom made product from tritec.

 

[zeroshiki]

In the flesh or on pics?

If on pics, it's very easy to overcharge the lume with a UV lamp. And if the crystal has no AR or AR removed, the effect will be even more impressive.
If in the flesh, I've seen Boudart's gen 177, and you can see a slight glow even in broad day light. It's pretty amazing, really, and for sure I've never seen a rep - even a relumed one - with a lume that good.

that's because the gen's sandwich dial has thicker plate, thus creating deeper recessed lume area which contains less light, the charged lume glows brighter in on the deeper recessed sandwich dial. the reps, as we know it, has thinner sandwich layer.

i have a gen 112, and yes, even in broad daylight, the green lume can be slightly seen, provided a certain angle of light to the dial. it is beautiful to see compared to the rep.

the gen 112 compared to a 112 dsn i own, has the same lume brightness and life. tested it side to side. uncharged, the lume on the gen looks whiter, while the dsn looks yellower. other than that, there's no huge difference.

OOT info: the new 219L rep i saw, has the same color of uncharged lume as the gen(whiter than the dsn), it's amazing.

 

[ugoderosa]

In the flesh or on pics?

If on pics, it's very easy to overcharge the lume with a UV lamp. And if the crystal has no AR or AR removed, the effect will be even more impressive.
If in the flesh, I've seen Boudart's gen 177, and you can see a slight glow even in broad day light. It's pretty amazing, really, and for sure I've never seen a rep - even a relumed one - with a lume that good.

The lume on the 177 and 219L reps have a really slight glow in natural daylight indoors if the room is not bright (not outside in the sun though). I do think the H factory uses superluminova on the 177/219, as advertized. BTW, the 219L is absolutely off the charts in terms of value. The 219L is the best out of the box pam rep to date IMHO. Hopefully, this factory will be able to match the H factory's efforts on the 219/177. I suspect it will be good, but not as good as the 177 and 219. I wonder if the 312 will have the same quality AR as the 177/219?

 

[Wiz]

Thanks for feedbacks guys, but I still don't believe a rep factory actually uses a tritec product. Superluminova cost about $30 per gram if bought in large quantities, and it takes a little less than 1g to lume a sandwich dial + hands. And I don't believe any rep factory would spend that kind of money into lume.

Maybe a dealer could order a few pieces with the superluminova lume as a special request, though.

 

[ugoderosa]

Thanks for feedbacks guys, but I still don't believe a rep factory actually uses a tritec product. Superluminova cost about $30 per gram if bought in large quantities, and it takes a little less than 1g to lume a sandwich dial + hands. And I don't believe any rep factory would spend that kind of money into lume.

Maybe a dealer could order a few pieces with the superluminova lume as a special request, though.

I don't know Wiz, you could be right, but all I know is that the 219/177 glow like torches. I have another pam with a C3/C1 lume by Goin, and the 219/177 lume glows even a bit brighter than the one with goin lume. So, whatever is being applied, it works like a charm.

 

[polaris]

Maybe the Chinese knocked off the recipe for Lumi-Brite or Super Luuminova and make their own. Makes more sense than they buying bulk SL from Tritec. As if Tritec wouldn't think it a little bit funny shipments are going to China. Reminds me of the electrolytic capacitor recipe the Chinese stole a few years ago.

Wouldn't it be funny if this rep lume found it's way to the market and put on gens?