How does the backside compare to the originals? Can anyone tell the difference unless it's right up next to an original? The open back watch worries me a bit.
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Pam1392 V6F
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The backside of the Asian 7750 movement looks a lot like the original. Some TD's let you order the V6F with the Asian 23J movement. This is really different from the gen.
ymee If people ask, some rep owners say they are testing this 1:1 model from China that is indistinguishable from the gen version to see if they like it (not to big or to small) and then buy the gen version. The price difference is 30x. That's like buying an iPhone worth €1000 for €33. Great price to test it first before you buy the original. I myself own a gen Panerai. In 10 years time perhaps 1 person asked me if it was real or replica. I just answered them that if it was not real then I paid way to much for it ;-)
ymee If people ask, some rep owners say they are testing this 1:1 model from China that is indistinguishable from the gen version to see if they like it (not to big or to small) and then buy the gen version. The price difference is 30x. That's like buying an iPhone worth €1000 for €33. Great price to test it first before you buy the original. I myself own a gen Panerai. In 10 years time perhaps 1 person asked me if it was real or replica. I just answered them that if it was not real then I paid way to much for it ;-)
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Is sead a TD?
I checked InTime and the ZF pictures has the correct lug size. Strangely the V6F has the stubby one.
I checked InTime and the ZF pictures has the correct lug size. Strangely the V6F has the stubby one.
For the website pictures, TDs rarely update pictures, unless they think customers will really care (and only forum members do, remember they also cater to everyone else). They usually make a new page for a new version but if it's not worth a version update, then the old pictures remain. Better to ask the TDs about any updates on any rep you're looking at. Then you can confirm in QC pictures.
As for the claim that the change is visible, I digress but let me put it into some context. A 1mm difference with the watch on your eyeball is going to be 3.33 microns at a distance of 300mm (a ruler's length) which is the distance of the watch from your eye when you're checking time, unless your eyesight is shot but then if your eyesight is shot, how would you ever discern a 1mm difference, let alone something 300 times smaller?
It's not actually visible, you just know it's there because you drew those lines (not even accurately I might add). But tasked to authenticate a PAM on another guy's arm, I doubt most (I should say anyone but this is just leaving the possibility that one of you is Superman ) would be able to tell the gen from a rep based on the hands distance. You'd be better off using other tells which are more obvious like the lug shape (if it's the old ZF version).Real world example. I once wore a blacked out PAM615 (does not exist in gen) with non-working chronos on a flight from HKIA. The guy across the isle was wearing his gen PAM127 (I know because he just bought it from Hong Kong and his companion was complaining about not leaving the box in luggage and he said not for the thousands of dollars he spent for it to add to his Panerai collection.
) and he was eyeing my PAM for a good part of the trip. I was trying to rest my eyes by closing them so he thought I was asleep. I overheard him tell his companion "I wonder where he bought that? That looks awesome. Must be some special edition." He wasn't measuring hand distance, that's for sure. Measurement peeping's only for us forum people. :lol: For most everyone else, ignorance is bliss. I guess for artists, it is completely about form. In contrast, I am an engineer (well sometimes :lol: ). If anyone should be fussy about measurements, it would be people in my profession. However, even in specifications, there are such things as tolerances. We understand that there will be minute differences on a case to case basis especially in mechanical assemblies and as long as it does not impede the function of the device, it's fine. So we may be exact, but we are forgiving. Different strokes for different folks.
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I guess for artists, it is completely about form. In contrast, I am an engineer (well sometimes :lol: )
Hmm. That explains a lot.
There are a few instances I can recall where this adds up and makes a lot more sense now. Lol
I also noticed that the font on the dial (Luminor Marina, Panerai Automatic) seems a little bit to thick on the ZF. On the V6F the letters are thinner, more like the gen.
These are really very small details that almost nobody notices. But since this is a gathering of geeks, I want to point it out.
These are really very small details that almost nobody notices. But since this is a gathering of geeks, I want to point it out.