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PAM 682 XF factory first QC PIC

mysterio

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It's a real shame that the bezel doesn't have the ceramic ring like its oro rosso counterpart (pam684).
Also the bezel size is probably worth additional pics or waiting for v2.
As of thickness, does anyone have gen specs? Past reps using using clone P9010 tends to be 1-2mm thinner than P9000 reps based on A7750 movement.

Without actual drawings how do we know what the bezel size is supposed to be?
 

cleebeauregard

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Looks like great quality for the price. Finally, a submersible for those of us with 7inch or less wrists! My NOOB 243 will be going out Up...

Looks like the Breguet 7057 is close to being available as well!
 

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Without actual drawings how do we know what the bezel size is supposed to be?
I mean if it doesn't overhang the case like it appears to be in current pics, then it's fine.

Almost forgot, there's also the dual lume color thing.
 

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I mean if it doesn't overhang the case like it appears to be in current pics, then it's fine.

Almost forgot, there's also the dual lume color thing.

Dual lume?

Edit:

NVM Found what it meant. The minute hand and bezel pip should be a different color.
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VSF PAM382 crystal tested at 5 min mark.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKwYM1zDPJQ

Yep, i know well all of these test. I've also a diamond selector test and with front shappire crystal works on all of my rep. But on KW that i've had it not works on caseback glass.

Recently i've tired on my PAM1312 KW that actually i own and it's the same story.

Could be my tester that not work well but i really don't think so :)

Sometimes you can spot the mineral glass from whiter edge profile.

However check this simple test that i've made right now, could be only a stupid and simple test on thin glasses but LOL:

That's all thin glasses of:

-DJ BP
-1312KW
-and cheapy fantasy "beach" PAM

https://youtu.be/ohKs-kpjv_A
 

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Yep, i know well all of these test. I've also a diamond selector test and with front shappire crystal works on all of my rep. But on KW that i've had it not works on caseback glass.

Recently i've tired on my PAM1312 KW that actually i own and it's the same story.

Could be my tester that not work well but i really don't think so :)

Sometimes you can spot the mineral glass from whiter edge profile.

However check this simple test that i've made right now, could be only a stupid and simple test on thin glasses but LOL:

That's all thin glasses of:

-DJ BP
-1312KW
-and cheapy fantasy "beach" PAM

https://youtu.be/ohKs-kpjv_A

I've read the fingernail tap method before. It's also not conclusive because the thickness of the material is not known. A thin sapphire crystal can be clicky same as a thicker mineral glass. The definitive test would be to have it verified by a professional third party with a diamond tester.
 

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Woot. This is fantastic news ..thought would be a longer wait. Looking forward to more info / review on this and hope it is up to scratch
 

lukko

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I've read the fingernail tap method before. It's also not conclusive because the thickness of the material is not known. A thin sapphire crystal can be clicky same as a thicker mineral glass. The definitive test would be to have it verified by a professional third party with a diamond tester.


Got it :)

Check also these windows caseback test on the channel of the video of the one that you've posted that hasn't shappire crystal on caseback :) :

On these three videos in particoular them explain exacly what i mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6fOgLAoxJw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ep5r_N7xMQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptYXY60OhyA

Here a pam1312 like mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXpO1HZxp4Q

And some others models:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0mMOR74m0k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rgpubPr0tA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnDguThX2Q4
 

mysterio

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Got it :)

Check also these windows caseback test on the channel of the video of the one that you've posted that hasn't shappire crystal on caseback :) :

On these three videos in particoular them explain exacly what i mean

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6fOgLAoxJw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ep5r_N7xMQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptYXY60OhyA

Here a pam1312 like mine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXpO1HZxp4Q

And some others models:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0mMOR74m0k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rgpubPr0tA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnDguThX2Q4

Yes, they do show the diamond tester not beeping on the caseback (unlike the front). However, all of your videos are of non-submersibles (specifically 1950s cased models like the PAM312, PAM359, PAM351, and their PAM1xxx counterparts as well as the PAM441). However, since we are talking about submersibles, we have to compare apples to apples. So far, 4 out of 4 PAM submersibles have caseback crystals which pass the diamond tester. Also, as an aside, all of the PAM111 caseback crystals also pass. So this looks to be a case dependent condition (Luminor 1950s caseback crystals have failed, Luminor 1950s Submersible caseback crystals pass, and Luminor Bettarini caseback crystals also pass), we can reasonably expect the PAM682 to have a verifiable sapphire caseback as well.
 

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Super exciting. Initial pictures look really good, and I'm surprised they repped this so quickly.
 

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Dual lume?

Edit:

NVM Found what it meant. The minute hand and bezel pip should be a different color.


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Nope .. damn, but why !! perfect excuse that lume parts done from different factories would be different colours but no ..you pip dude do blue

Not sure I care enough to wait for a fix... that may not happen

pam682-luminor-submersible-xf-1-1-best-edition-on-black-rubber-strap-p9010.jpg
 

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This is looking really good! The single color lume doesn't bother me at all and aesthetically I actually prefer it. I intend to order one, just waiting to hear back from my TD...
 

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any body knows about the gen thickness as compare to this XF rep version. its mention on puretime that this rep has thickness of 16.5mm
 

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any body knows about the gen thickness as compare to this XF rep version. its mention on puretime that this rep has thickness of 16.5mm

wow really, unless you measured the gen at sihh, you cannot find info (I admit - after a brief search) about its thickness..