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Pam 111 noob v4
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There is nothing in the pam guide mate, in the 1xx section. I've looked there..
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Purpose of QC pic:
1) ensuring that you are getting the right watch
2) identifying any serious flaws in the item
Check the dial print, if is correct (compare with pictures from dealer´s website, or in RWI threads) . Check if the numbers are aligned. Look for stains in the dial, and scratches in the case and crystal. The QC picture is no big deal... is like buying watch in any store, you just look if the model you´re buying is ok.
TSWATCH is having clearance sale.
$188 is good price but I'm hesitant to pull a trigger because it is not TD.
$188 is good price but I'm hesitant to pull a trigger because it is not TD.
This is an excelent watch and the best currently available.
If it's your first Rep then you are going to love it and if it wasn't your first Rep you would love it.
Buy it and enjoy.
There is a whole thread on just this particular model and the various buyers asking Ale about it.
Just do a search and you will find it.
Don't ask us to direct you to it as we will just have to do the same search that you can do yourself.
Enjoy your new 111.
Here's mine.
If it's your first Rep then you are going to love it and if it wasn't your first Rep you would love it.
Buy it and enjoy.
There is a whole thread on just this particular model and the various buyers asking Ale about it.
Just do a search and you will find it.
Don't ask us to direct you to it as we will just have to do the same search that you can do yourself.
Enjoy your new 111.
Here's mine.
Don't think there is.
Both the Noob 111 & 112 versions listed at around $250 and any that are much cheaper will be low grade versions so not comparible.
I had the 112 and actualy prefer the cleaner dial without the second hand but I also like to see a second hand moving so this time went for the 111.
Both the Noob 111 & 112 versions listed at around $250 and any that are much cheaper will be low grade versions so not comparible.
I had the 112 and actualy prefer the cleaner dial without the second hand but I also like to see a second hand moving so this time went for the 111.
For whatever reason factories don't do the y incabloc mod to the 112 (blows my mind as to why since 111s have it) and that's what stopped me from getting the 112...and went with the 000 base (already had the 111)
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OP, sounds like you haven't done enough research...check ALE's Pam guide (search for it) and you will find every detail about every Pam (and learn so much about Pams in the process)
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I'm all for helping out new members but clearly you have not read the guide because if you did, then you would have seen this.
EVALUATION: (**) SUPER REP (M&N-series Noob, M&N-series H maker)
EVALUATION: (**) SUPER REP best option (N-series V3 Noob)
The PAM 111 is the same as PAM 112 but with seconds@9 subdial
There is also a watch similar to PAM 111 but in all brushed Titanium version: the PAM 177.
The PAM 247 Ferretti Limited Edition is like a PAM 111 but with solid caseback with signature Ferretti.
There is a Destro version, the PAM 026 but PVD coated and Solid caseback.
The Panerai PAM 111 Luminor Marina is inspired by one of the pioneer models of Luminor which was introduced in the 1940s
The PAM 111 is one of the most famous Panerai watches and many people have been introduced in the Panerai World by this model released in 2002.
From 1997 to 2001 the Luminor Marina used the OP II movement, but in 2002 (E series) the entire "Historic" line was upgraded to use the new movement, and the Marina now contains the OP XI movement. 2002 onwards models all incorporate sapphire crystal backs, whereas the earlier models all had solid backs.
For the H series, the Luminor Marina and Base received a significant overhaul, in that the decoration on the bridges changed from the stamped Panerai to a Côtes de Geneve engraving.
The PAM 111 is a charismatic PAM, people loves it: It was very curious to see the way it got first place (with a great difference), of RWI Replica of the Year 2011 award from the PAM 005 or PAM 029, despite your Display caseback which denounces its evident flaws (lack of Y shape on Incabloc and usually very bad Swan Neck)
See below threads:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/swan-neck-part-iii-statistical-90559?t=90559 by ALE
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=134438 by ALE
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=134437 by ALE
There are good modifications of these replicas to fix above mentioned flaws. As very good example you can see the pics of an awesome work made by goin 6633 here:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/little-trick-for-113732?p=1114263 by goin
More modds by goin:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pam-111n-noob-131974?p=1297534 by goin
Despite above mentioned flaws (denounced by the Display caseback) the Pam 111 N and M from Noob are one of the best replica ever made. For more information read:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=86121by Puretime
http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=177078 by bilabong
The latest versions N-series from Noob must have some improvements over the others. We say “must” because the earlier batches not always had all these improvements. We are not deliberately talking about version numbers V1-V2-V2.5-V3, because it will be useless, since there is a big confusion concerning this matter, read here.
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=109433 by tranzmizzion
September 2012- the "new" so-called V3 version was released. There is a thread started to determine the improvements and flaws of this V3 version:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=115770 by ALE, really very supported by the PCTeam member sharrkey.
According to observations from sharrkey and ALE , the improvements we can expect are:
- Crystal updated to single AR like gen PAM 111 with a very good optics. Be careful because some items seem to have the crystal a little too raised.
- Hands must be Pre-V type like gen.http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=108593
- Flattened and polished cannon pinion.
- Matching hands and dial superlume, certainly not as bright as the H-maker’s lume.
- CG improved to the latest standard with nice “square” inner edges. http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showpost.php?p=1054542&postcount=10 by ALE
-“A” central horizontal bar in dial inscriptions is placed higher (very, very lightly).
- Strap screws do seem a better fit, more flush
- Serial numbers in caseback are engraved more deeply.
- Improved and more visible Roller of the lever and axle.
- Nice engraved OFFICINE PANERAI on the movement plates. It semms that sometimes the last “I” is a little lower.
- No modifications concerning Swan Neck (either spring or screw), Incabloc or movement.
As showed in above mentioned thread about V3, the flaws to be corrected in this V3 version are:
- “Y” shaped Incabloc http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=113823.html by goin
- Long screw on Swan Neck
- Correct SHAPE in Swan Neck Spring supporthttp://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showpost.php?p=1168765&postcount=332by ALE
- “Slim” crown http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showpost.php?p=1156643&postcount=269 by ALE
- Gasket for the CG Pinhttp://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=119090 by Rwolf
- Brushed movement golden Gears and polished bevel of Wheels
- Improvement of OFFICINE PANERAI engraving in movement bridges
The "Fat" crown to be corrected to "Slim" crown is a curious flaw showed by Rwolf in above mentioned thread, about the thickness of the contour (wheel rim) of the Noob crown. This thickness is bigger than gen one, and the H maker crowns are like gen. To well understand this issue see below pic:
According to Rwolf this Noob “Fat” crown is appropriate for old models without Roller lever, but models with Roller are fitted with “Slim” crowns. Therefore, H maker crown is more accurate for the new series (K-L-M-N-O…) with Roller. See posts #259->#274 in above mentioned thread.
See a good pictorial PAM 111 with gen strap here:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pcteam-pam111n-gen-114941?p=1126478 by Del
Pictorial and comparisons with old PAM 111 H maker by Baxter:
http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?t=34529 by Baxter
WARNING: Be careful because there is from Nov 2012 a batch of V3 Noob with wrong dial markers. For more info read:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=125655p2 by ALE
To detect the flaw:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/pcteam-how-detect-126005?t=126005 by ALE
There are replica versions fitted with “Swiss” movements. These "Swiss" movements are not the same of the original mounted in the current gen watches. They are, at best, a "cheap Swiss" Low beat movement with a "cheap" Novodiac shock protection system instead of Incabloc and with an horrible Swan Neck, the same or worse than which you can find in the replicas. The advice is: Save your money and get the good and accurate enough Asian movement.
From Dec 2012 there is a Swiss movement version with a perfect Incabloc, but they are Low beat and have an horrible wrong Swan Neck typical of Noob. They are no worth in my opinion.
The H maker models are very good Super reps too, but Noob is superior due to some differences as follows:
- Noob has better creamish colour and enbossed inscriptions on dial.
- Noob has superior Sandwich dial with deepest markers.
- The current Noob crystal quality and AR are similar if no better than H maker (in old versions H maker was superior).
- Cannon pinion in last version of Noob is more flattened and polished and, therefore, better than H maker CP.
- Better Noob Crown Guard (square inner edges and finish)
- Swan Neck spring and screw continues being clearly superior in H maker.
- H maker has worse finish in movement wheels and worse head shape of screws.
- H maker has printed OFFICINA PANERAI on bridges instead of engraved like in Noob and gen
Noob 44mm case was usually better than H maker, now V3 is clearly better. There is a good review about this comparison made by Klockis and ALE in cooperation:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=150417 by Klockis-ALE
PAM 111 is a perfect candidate for a first PANERAI replica.
Now be honest next time and don't waste other people's time and effort.
I'm aware but check this out:OP, sounds like you haven't done enough research...check ALE's Pam guide (search for it) and you will find every detail about every Pam (and learn so much about Pams in the process)
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https://www.intime01.co/panerai/483-panerai-pam000-m-noob-transparent-ar-on-brown-calf-strap.html
Look at the description, it says seconds movement.. It just made me think if i miss something..
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