omg omega smp asian automatic

[piratedzeus]

I am soon receving my first Rep ever, a Omega SMP from WBK with asian automatic.
I know this is the cheapest one you can get so i need all your ideas to make it tick.
I never owned a automatic watch before, can i wind the Asian automatic movement manually? What should i do with it to get it the best started? Turn clockwise? counter clockwise? wind 100x manually? Thanks

i hope no need to move this to the flame free zone ..

 

[crick]

you know, i've just shaken my watches several times till i see it tick, then wear em and they're fine.

damn you people, now i want a wbk Omega smp!

 

[e36wchmstr]

I usually start mine off with 10x winds (clockwise, not full rotations, but you'll get what I mean when you get it.), a little shake of the wrist, and you're good to go.

If you wear it constantly, you shouldn't need to rewind it soon. Power reserves (don't quote me on the Asian 21J) are usually 40 hrs +, with constant wear it will rewind itself. I usually only wind mine when setting the date/time every couple of weeks.

A little info on automatic movements:

http://www.europastar.com/europastar/wa ... nchor97104

For the actual "winding" procedure, you would want to unscrew the crown on the right side until it clicks. You should then be at a point where you can wind by turning clockwise. The next click will be for the date/GMT setting. The GMT (if equipped) will set via turning counter-clockwise, the date will adjust with a clockwise rotation. The last click is going to be the time adjustment, at which point the "hack" feature will stop the second hand from moving and allow you to set the time as needed. Push the crown back in until it's back in the "winding" position, and carefull screw clockwise while pushing inward to reseal the crown.

 

[crick]

oh yeah, screw down crowns... make sure you UNSCREW the crown before pulling it to adjust date and time. My first experience with screwdown crowns i kept tryng to yank the crown out

 

[piratedzeus]

you know, i've just shaken my watches several times till i see it tick, then wear em and they're fine.

damn you people, now i want a wbk Omega smp!

I annoyed with like 3 pms, 1 post in his subforum, 5 mails...... 5 days later he had it for me

 

[piratedzeus]

thanks for the advices, any ideas how long i dont need it serviced or somewhat? will i make it a year lol?

 

[e36wchmstr]

thanks for the advices, any ideas how long i dont need it serviced or somewhat? will i make it a year lol?

Asian automatic movements, much like a Dodge Neon, is considered throw away movements by many.

Many watch smiths wont work on them, as replacement parts are usually unavailable or scarce. If the piece is new, it can last anywhere from 1 minute to 50 years; it's kind of luck of the draw. ETA movements, in the higher end reps, are serviceable by MANY local as well as national watch smiths and are generally what you would take to have repaired.

Call and ask around for your local watch smiths. Grab a yellow pages and start dialing. Ask if they work on replicas and their experience. I've got 3 in my town, and 2 of them work on ETA reps no problem. None of them will touch an asian movement. They also charge $50-$60ish starter for a service, in which we paid $95 shipped for the piece in the first place .

My opinion, get it and let er run. Keep it out of water, especially salt water, and keep it in good condition. If it stops breaking, order a replacement ETA movement (~$70) for movement alone, and take it and have the Swiss movement swapped. The SMP GMT is an rep considering aesthetic accuracy (WBK has small flaw in GMT hand length/shape, as well as closed caseback).

 

[piratedzeus]

wooho 95$ to throw away well i thought of somewhat like this lol.
Nevermind when its broken i will rebuy it as ETA from pt and keep it alive until im old.

 

[piratedzeus]

thanks for the advices, any ideas how long i dont need it serviced or somewhat? will i make it a year lol?

Asian automatic movements, much like a Dodge Neon, is considered throw away movements by many.

Many watch smiths wont work on them, as replacement parts are usually unavailable or scarce. If the piece is new, it can last anywhere from 1 minute to 50 years; it's kind of luck of the draw. ETA movements, in the higher end reps, are serviceable by MANY local as well as national watch smiths and are generally what you would take to have repaired.

Call and ask around for your local watch smiths. Grab a yellow pages and start dialing. Ask if they work on replicas and their experience. I've got 3 in my town, and 2 of them work on ETA reps no problem. None of them will touch an asian movement. They also charge $50-$60ish starter for a service, in which we paid $95 shipped for the piece in the first place .

My opinion, get it and let er run. Keep it out of water, especially salt water, and keep it in good condition. If it stops breaking, order a replacement ETA movement (~$70) for movement alone, and take it and have the Swiss movement swapped. The SMP GMT is an rep considering aesthetic accuracy (WBK has small flaw in GMT hand length/shape, as well as closed caseback).

I will let the forums rate it whether its worh 70$ then, thanks!

 

[piratedzeus]

Still open for someone with a story about a asian movements that works for 5 years now or somewhat

 

[e36wchmstr]

Don't get me wrong, the Asian 21J movement is a great movement and I doubt you will have any problems with. What I meant was though, that by the time the piece will probably have issues, you will have scratched it to the point to where it would be more feasable to just toss it and spend the extra $30 to get a brand new with new movement.

You picked up one of the best valued reps on the market. Read read read and learn, and you will probably end up doing what most of us do and that's stick with a piece like this for a daily driver, and purchase ETA reps that you keep nice and wear occasionally. I would much rather spend $95 on a piece to throw away later than $300 on an ETA rep that I am going to beat around daily.

You're at a good starting point for reps. When most of us joined we didn't have values like this to choose from. Just know, this is a good starting point though, with such a great and broad selection ahead of you. You'll get different brands and models you like, and when you do save and get a good ETA version of the rep and hold on to it.

 

[piratedzeus]

i hope it will last enough until i have the cash for another, this will be my only watch, my last Junghans Solar is broken..."never ever change a battery again!" YES because the movement is broken LOL.

I hope my watch will make it through customs from USA to Germany....

 

[e36wchmstr]

For a little piece of mind, from the highly rated seller (which I have had EXCELLENT personal experiences with):

"Hi Novesh, it depsnds on the movement in the watch. I primarily sell Asian auto movements. Every onece in a while, I run into a watch with a bad mvoement. That is why I hand pick my watches. I buy them based on cosmetics, and then I run them in my place and make sure they work properly and keep goods time BEFORE I post them for sale. If the movement is no good, it's my problem. Just ask anyone who has bought an asian movement watch from me if they have such problems. I know I'm small time compared to the other dealers. I know my stock is limited. But, if you get a watch from me, you can forget about those problems others see from drop shipped products. I also know that my watches are not "PERFECT" or "ULTIMATE" or "100%" or "MBW 1:1" quality. But, they are a lot of bang for the buck, and I have never had anyone send a watch back due to a bad movement.

So, keep in mind that there are reliable asian movement watches. Don't let a drop shipped item that has not been inspected or tested influence you against all aisn mvoement products. Right now I have an asian movement Rolex TOG on my wirst that is accurate to about +2 seconds a day. That is within COSC specs for a $95.00 watch."

-WBK

We have good dealers like WBK here for a reason. Everyone has their specialty, and you my good man picked the best in regards to value and hand selected service. You shouldn't have any reason to worry . GL with you endeavors on here. -pelo out.

 

[crick]

not many will service an asian21j just because of difficulty to obtain parts.

A swiss eta in that matter will last u longer.

servicing costs on average 100 dollars.

 

[piratedzeus]

100$ for servicing wtf i dont have that cash ^^
lets see how long the asian one will run

 

[crick]

100$ for servicing wtf i dont have that cash ^^
lets see how long the asian one will run

yea

doesnt matter if the movement is 10 dollars, it will still cost 100 smackers to service because you're paying them to strip it down gear by gear and clean and reassemble and oil.

the asian should last u long. people here have had an asian movement 10 yrs no problems.

 

[piratedzeus]

lol im starting to calm down now... thanks!
just hope the customs wont get it

 

[crick]

customs? r u from the UK?

 

[piratedzeus]

I am from Germany and WBK sits in the USA.....

 

[crick]

I am from Germany and WBK sits in the USA.....

ahhhhh that makes sense. hope you get it soon then my friend!