Not worth buying in gen

[evilpenguin]

Those are some beautiful pics! The sheer number of Panerai on the list makes me never want to buy one! I have a couple of Panerai's on my short list. I just have to go into a store to try them on again. The last time I felt the 47 mm was a bit much. I have a 7.5" wrist. But I don't have the guns to pull it off. Maybe with long sleeves! Or I'll just have to stop doing compound work and focus on beach muscles for a bit.

I've been eyeing the PAM508 Ceramica for work. I won't have to worry as much about scuffing it up. I would just need to buy a rubber strap, and those things can get pricey! The PAM671 may be cool for work also. The Bronzo will look good over time as the patina develops.

You should easily be able to pull off a 47mm with your wrist size, since mine is only 7". The 508 is a fun piece, but if that's too big, try the 438, which is the ceramic luminor in 44mm. [emoji111]?

 

[greekgod]

Yeah, that was basically the idea. You can keep discussin wherever you want, what's interesting is the consensus.

No I agree totally with you. We live in an age where we no longer even need to type on our keyboards to find instant information. We can just ask siri or Google.

I like to research very much but it can be very chaotic on the forums. The search function also doesn't work properly. Keeping that in light I think your work is exceptional!


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[Autobot]

There are many watches that fall into that category I think. I have about $1,100 into that JF LV, but there are many that I have that have much less into them, and even if I spend $300 on some mods, in addition to the cost of the watch, it is still not worth buying in Gen. You could theoretically argue that the Noob CHS Explorer 2 is not worth buying in gen as well. Yes, the movement is a time bomb, but the rest of the watch is very very good, and for about $700 you can get a Yuki with a GMT module installed, then it is perfect, for about $975... much less than a $5,000 gen. So for that reason, to me, the Explorer 2 is not worth buying in gen.

There is a Yuki with a GMT module???


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[timnic54]

There is a Yuki with a GMT module???


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The Yuki or SH 3135 will take a gen module. But I don't think it will be so long before we see a rep module with the correct spring system as opposed to what we see added to the 2824 currently . Who knows, just a hunch.

 

[Hyjynx]

This is what the pictures seem to show also. However v1 still looks like the best

Yep. I'll second that. Noob v1 remains the gold standard for BPFF. If only ZF's QC could be more consistent. You just never know what you're gonna get from that maker. [emoji57]


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[maxracingshox]

Interesting. I would rate the ZF BPFF at least as good as the almighty infamous superdupertrooper Noob V1. I don't want to break a discussion however.

 

[Hyjynx]

Interesting. I would rate the ZF BPFF at least as good as the almighty infamous superdupertrooper Noob V1. I don't want to break a discussion however.

Of course there's no gainsaying the fact that ZF did a superb job with its iteration of BPFF, but if there's no guarantee that what one buyer gets will be as good, quality wise, as the next guy's, therein lies the rub. That point is moot, my friend.

 

[timnic54]

Of course there's no gainsaying the fact that ZF did a superb job with its iteration of BPFF, but if there's no guarantee that what one buyer gets will be as good, quality wise, as the next guy's, therein lies the rub. That point is moot, my friend.

ZF do some great work I only have one of their watches and its great. Such a shame they have this reputation for inconsistency

 

[firemedic1343]

Of course there's no gainsaying the fact that ZF did a superb job with its iteration of BPFF, but if there's no guarantee that what one buyer gets will be as good, quality wise, as the next guy's, therein lies the rub. That point is moot, my friend.

I agree, I'm not going to roll the dice on something that I'm purchasing sight unseen. QC pics don't always tell the whole story. It's always going to be a dice roll, I'd rather improve my odds and go with someone other than ZF.

 

[Mikey101]

I agree, I'm not going to roll the dice on something that I'm purchasing sight unseen. QC pics don't always tell the whole story. It's always going to be a dice roll, I'd rather improve my odds and go with someone other than ZF.

Well first ZF IWC rep was DOA. it was replaced by the dealer (after much angst on my part) and it works perfectly.

 

[firemedic1343]

Well first ZF IWC rep was DOA. it was replaced by the dealer (after much angst on my part) and it works perfectly.

NO thanks! Especially since there is no reliable warranty on these things.

 

[InRepNoob]

This thread is all I need atm

Will have to keep learning

 

[simonjay]

Hi guys, I will paste here the updated list 2017 developed from my Sept 2016 list. A good job made by Omagad (credits to..) that I believe belongs here and not in a rep thread:


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Updated NWBIG / Super Replicas consensual list
26/06/2017 -
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- Commonly accepted as Super Reps (consensual list) -

Audemars Piguet ROO Diver JF V7 : review

Blancpain Fifty Fathoms ZF

Breitling Avenger GMT GF
Breitling SuperOcean Abyss
Breitling SuperOcean Abyss Chrono (Noob)
Breitling SuperOcean Heritage Black
Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish H-factory v2 (be careful, it has square hands, they are not produced anymore)
Breitling SuperOcean II 44mm (Noob) (black only)

Cartier Santos XL V6

Hublot Big Bang V6 SS (the dark models only and not the carbon fiber one)

IWC 3777-01 ZF
IWC 3878 Spitfire V6F
IWC Big Pilot 5009-1 ZF
IWC Ingenieur Noob

Montblanc Timewalker chrono Noob a7753

Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m 42 and 45mm LMPO

PAM 000 - Luminor Base Logo (44mm) N-series Noob V2.5
PAM 005 - Luminar Marina Logo (44mm) N-series Noob V2 / N-series H maker V2
PAM 026 - Luminor Marina Destro PVD (44mm) K-series Noob V3
PAM 029 - Luminor GMT (44mm) M-series Noob V2-improved
PAM 057 - Luminor Power Reserve Titanium (44mm) DSN
PAM 088 - Luminor GMT (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 104 - Luminor Marina Automatic (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 111 - Luminor Marina (44mm) N-series Noob V3
PAM 112 - Luminor Base (44mm) M-N series Noob
PAM 117 - Luminor Marina Titanium (44mm) N-series Noob
PAM 127 - Luminor 1960 "Fiddy" (47mm) Latest Noob
PAM 164 - Luminor Marina Automatic (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 176 - Luminor Base Titanium (44mm) M-N series Noob V3
PAM 177 - Luminor Marina Titanium (44mm) N-P series Noob
PAM 187 - Luminor Submersible Chorno 1000m (47mm) Noob 7753
PAM 217 - Luminor Marina Militare 1950 Destro "Fiddy" (47mm) 2012 Noob
PAM 243 - Luminor 1950 Submersible (44mm) M-series Noob V2
PAM 285 - K-series KW/V6Fac with A7750 decorated like OPIII)
PAM 288 - Radiomir Chronograph (45mm) K-series H maker
PAM 292 - Radiomir Black Seal (45mm) J-series Noob
PAM 297 - Luminor GMT (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 299 - Luminor Marina Automatic (K-series) (44mm) O- series Noob
PAM 318 - Luminor Marina Logo (44mm) L-series Noob
PAM 346 - Radiomir Titanio (45mm) KW
PAM 356 - Luminor Chrono Daylight (44mm) O-series Noob 7753
PAM 364 - Luminor Submersible 1950 Titanium (47mm) P-series Noob
PAM 390 - Luminor Boutique Edition (44mm) N-series Noob
PAM 411 - 420 - Luminor Marina Boutiques Special Edition (44mm) KW
PAM 432-434 - Luminor Marina Boutiques Special Edition (44mm) H Maker
PAM 508 - Luminor 1950 Submerislbe Ceramica (47mm) KW-V6Fac Ceramic decorated A7750 Inverted KP9000 // P-KW-V6Fac Ceramic decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
PAM 569 - Luminor 1950 Submersible Dextro Titanium (47mm) KW-V6F Q-series Seagull Non-Inverted KWP9000-Seagull V2
PAM 571 - ZFac P-series P.9000 decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5 // KW-V6Fac P-series P.9000 decorated A7750 Inverted KP9000-V2. Best option in Nov 2015 for A7750 lovers //KW-V6Fac P-series P.9000 decorated Seagull NON-inverted K9000-SeagullV2. Best option in Nov 2015 for Seagull lovers
PAM 607 - KW-V6Fac P-series Ceramic decorated A7750 NON-inverted KP9000-V2) The most interesting version for A7750 lovers. // KW-V6Fac P-series Ceramic decorated KP9000-Seagull V2 NON-inverted The most interesting version for Seagull lovers
reviews of all PAMS


Rolex 114300 Grape and Grey dial JF
Rolex Sub 16610 TC
Rolex TWBEST/WM9 (Sub/Bluesy/DD)

Sevenfriday P series (P1-1, P3-1), V series (V2-1) and M series

Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300
Tag Heuer Aquaracer Calibre 5
Tag Heuer Carrera calibre 1887 V6F - Ceramic Bezel Black Dial on SS

Tudor Black bay Red
Tudor Ranger Heritage
Tudor Black Pelagos ZF V2 (not the LHD one)
Tudor Blue Pelagos V6F V2

Zenith Type 20 extra special V6



- Under debate / No Consensus yet -

Probably NWBIG/Super Reps :
Hublot Classic Fusion 42mm JJF black dial (V2)
Rolex Sea Dweller 4000 Noob V2 SA3135 only
Rolex Explorer 214270 SH3135 (JF)
Zenith Pilot Extra Special 20 (ZF)


Under discussion (needs more feedback) :

Bvlgari Diagono Magnesium GF
Breitling Avenger Blackbird (GF)
Breitling SuperOcean SeaWolf H-factory v2
IWC Portuguese 7 days ZF
Jaeger-LeCoultre Diver Master Compressor (Noob)
Omega Seamaster 300
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean GMT 600m
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m 42 and 45mm (CrPO)
Rolex Sea Dweller Deepsea (DBlue) Noob V7


FIRST CLASS but refused as Super Rep :

Bell & Ross 03-92 ZF (not the Golden Heritage one that has a very bad Dial)
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms (Noob V2)
Omega Seamaster 300 Spectre KW V2
Rolex Yachtmaster Rhodium/Blue Noob SA3135
Rolex Submariner Ceramic 116610 Noob V6s/V7
Tudor Pelagos LHD - ZF

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[crackend]

Awesome list Dude! Thank you!!!


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[Omagad]

Hi guys, I will paste here the updated list 2017 developed from my Sept 2016 list. A good job made by Omagad (credits to..) that I believe belongs here and not in a rep thread:


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Updated NWBIG / Super Replicas consensual list
26/06/2017 -
----------------------------------------------------------------


- Commonly accepted as Super Reps (consensual list) -

Audemars Piguet ROO Diver JF V7 : review

Blancpain Fifty Fathoms ZF

Breitling Avenger GMT GF
Breitling SuperOcean Abyss
Breitling SuperOcean Abyss Chrono (Noob)
Breitling SuperOcean Heritage Black
Breitling SuperOcean Steelfish H-factory v2 (be careful, it has square hands, they are not produced anymore)
Breitling SuperOcean II 44mm (Noob) (black only)

Cartier Santos XL V6

Hublot Big Bang V6 SS (the dark models only and not the carbon fiber one)

IWC 3777-01 ZF
IWC 3878 Spitfire V6F
IWC Big Pilot 5009-1 ZF
IWC Ingenieur Noob

Montblanc Timewalker chrono Noob a7753

Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m 42 and 45mm LMPO

PAM 000 - Luminor Base Logo (44mm) N-series Noob V2.5
PAM 005 - Luminar Marina Logo (44mm) N-series Noob V2 / N-series H maker V2
PAM 026 - Luminor Marina Destro PVD (44mm) K-series Noob V3
PAM 029 - Luminor GMT (44mm) M-series Noob V2-improved
PAM 057 - Luminor Power Reserve Titanium (44mm) DSN
PAM 088 - Luminor GMT (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 104 - Luminor Marina Automatic (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 111 - Luminor Marina (44mm) N-series Noob V3
PAM 112 - Luminor Base (44mm) M-N series Noob
PAM 117 - Luminor Marina Titanium (44mm) N-series Noob
PAM 127 - Luminor 1960 "Fiddy" (47mm) Latest Noob
PAM 164 - Luminor Marina Automatic (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 176 - Luminor Base Titanium (44mm) M-N series Noob V3
PAM 177 - Luminor Marina Titanium (44mm) N-P series Noob
PAM 187 - Luminor Submersible Chorno 1000m (47mm) Noob 7753
PAM 217 - Luminor Marina Militare 1950 Destro "Fiddy" (47mm) 2012 Noob
PAM 243 - Luminor 1950 Submersible (44mm) M-series Noob V2
PAM 285 - K-series KW/V6Fac with A7750 decorated like OPIII)
PAM 288 - Radiomir Chronograph (45mm) K-series H maker
PAM 292 - Radiomir Black Seal (45mm) J-series Noob
PAM 297 - Luminor GMT (44mm) O-series Noob
PAM 299 - Luminor Marina Automatic (K-series) (44mm) O- series Noob
PAM 318 - Luminor Marina Logo (44mm) L-series Noob
PAM 346 - Radiomir Titanio (45mm) KW
PAM 356 - Luminor Chrono Daylight (44mm) O-series Noob 7753
PAM 364 - Luminor Submersible 1950 Titanium (47mm) P-series Noob
PAM 390 - Luminor Boutique Edition (44mm) N-series Noob
PAM 411 - 420 - Luminor Marina Boutiques Special Edition (44mm) KW
PAM 432-434 - Luminor Marina Boutiques Special Edition (44mm) H Maker
PAM 508 - Luminor 1950 Submerislbe Ceramica (47mm) KW-V6Fac Ceramic decorated A7750 Inverted KP9000 // P-KW-V6Fac Ceramic decorated Seagull NON-inverted KP9000-Seagull V2
PAM 569 - Luminor 1950 Submersible Dextro Titanium (47mm) KW-V6F Q-series Seagull Non-Inverted KWP9000-Seagull V2
PAM 571 - ZFac P-series P.9000 decorated A7750 NON-inverted Improved ZP9000-V2.5 // KW-V6Fac P-series P.9000 decorated A7750 Inverted KP9000-V2. Best option in Nov 2015 for A7750 lovers //KW-V6Fac P-series P.9000 decorated Seagull NON-inverted K9000-SeagullV2. Best option in Nov 2015 for Seagull lovers
PAM 607 - KW-V6Fac P-series Ceramic decorated A7750 NON-inverted KP9000-V2) The most interesting version for A7750 lovers. // KW-V6Fac P-series Ceramic decorated KP9000-Seagull V2 NON-inverted The most interesting version for Seagull lovers
reviews of all PAMS


Rolex 114300 Grape and Grey dial JF
Rolex Sub 16610 TC
Rolex TWBEST/WM9 (Sub/Bluesy/DD)

Sevenfriday P series (P1-1, P3-1), V series (V2-1) and M series

Tag Heuer Aquaracer 300
Tag Heuer Aquaracer Calibre 5
Tag Heuer Carrera calibre 1887 V6F - Ceramic Bezel Black Dial on SS

Tudor Black bay Red
Tudor Ranger Heritage
Tudor Black Pelagos ZF V2 (not the LHD one)
Tudor Blue Pelagos V6F V2

Zenith Type 20 extra special V6



- Under debate / No Consensus yet -

Probably NWBIG/Super Reps :
Hublot Classic Fusion 42mm JJF black dial (V2)
Rolex Sea Dweller 4000 Noob V2 SA3135 only
Rolex Explorer 214270 SH3135 (JF)
Zenith Pilot Extra Special 20 (ZF)


Under discussion (needs more feedback) :

Bvlgari Diagono Magnesium GF
Breitling Avenger Blackbird (GF)
Breitling SuperOcean SeaWolf H-factory v2
IWC Portuguese 7 days ZF
Jaeger-LeCoultre Diver Master Compressor (Noob)
Omega Seamaster 300
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean GMT 600m
Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600m 42 and 45mm (CrPO)
Rolex Sea Dweller Deepsea (DBlue) Noob V7


FIRST CLASS but refused as Super Rep :

Bell & Ross 03-92 ZF (not the Golden Heritage one that has a very bad Dial)
Blancpain Fifty Fathoms (Noob V2)
Omega Seamaster 300 Spectre KW V2
Rolex Yachtmaster Rhodium/Blue Noob SA3135
Rolex Submariner Ceramic 116610 Noob V6s/V7
Tudor Pelagos LHD - ZF

Thanks and of course, the thread that goes with it for those who want to participate : https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/consensual-list-super-reps-nwbig.380405/

Again, these 2 threads are not doing the same thing so I think you're doing a mistake because you're trying to ovverride @timnic54 's work with my list when both lists are based on different criterias.

You should let this thread live on its own. Once again, they are not the same. NWBIG and Super Reps is not the same thing. Posting this here is just adding more confusion to this thread.

I'll just credit you in my thread, I wasn't aware that you worked on the original list too. You should have told me that. ;-)

 

[bangsters]

Add the Breitling Seawolf in Yellow.

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[firemedic1343]

Hi guys, I will paste here the updated list 2017 developed from my Sept 2016 list. A good job made by Omagad (credits to..) that I believe belongs here and not in a rep thread:

We're all about reps! He borrowed from this thread. And now his list is being posted here. All kinds of reps!

Even though his list is different from this. Considering both lists are different, it would be far more interesting to see them evolve separately.

 

[simonjay]

Thanks and of course, the thread that goes with it for those who want to participate : https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/consensual-list-super-reps-nwbig.380405/

Again, these 2 threads are not doing the same thing so I think you're doing a mistake because you're trying to ovverride @timnic54 's work with my list when both lists are based on different criterias.

You should let this thread live on its own. Once again, they are not the same. NWBIG and Super Reps is not the same thing. Posting this here is just adding more confusion to this thread.

I'll just credit you in my thread, I wasn't aware that you worked on the original list too. You should have told me that. ;-)

Post #115 in your thread. I've told you that in the first instance. I have even attached a screenshot of the post in this thread with the first ever list made, which I have created on the 18.09.2016!

I do not understand the point where you say that these 2 lists have different purposes other than pointing out to the community which reps are the best one.

Timnic54 started this thread with the idea of making a list of watches NWBIG, meaning that for that Gen watch exists a rep so well done that the gen is not worth buying.

Your list is more detailed, but in which way has a different purpose?

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[simonjay]

We're all about reps! He borrowed from this thread. And now his list is being posted here. All kinds of reps!

Even though his list is different from this. Considering both lists are different, it would be far more interesting to see them evolve separately.

Same purpose. Imho a dispersion of efficiency keeping 2 discussions on the same matter. Please read my previous post.

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[Omagad]

Just read the first post of my thread.

If you don't understand what's the difference between NWBIGs of this thread and those in mine, I can't help you more.