Noob V3 Parts + H Factory Parts = PAM005 VS Gen PAM005

[ryanwayer]

I just bought a V3 Noob 111 and the the latest version 005 H Factory.

Case , Crystal , Crown & Crown Guard from Noob 111 V3
Dial , Case Back, Hands set and movement from H Factory


I'm quite impressed about the Noob V3 111 Crystal had improved so much imho, the colorless and AR is very good even compare to Gen.

Lets the photo speaks.

Left: Gen , Right: Rep

 

[BMWSG]

Very informative thread. Thanks !

 

[jcrry2]

Besides the reps hands it looks really good

 

[ryanwayer]

Besides the reps hands it looks really good

Why? The rep hands looks good to me..

 

[jcrry2]

it looks to me like the lume section of the rep hands go out a little to far. it may not be but looks like it to me

 

[Xman]

Very nice rep you built! Thanks for posting, I'm still impressed by the h factory sausage dials.

 

[rsh]

I cant see any differences really, just a tad in the lume application....holy crap, maybe I need a Pam instead of a rolex sub

 

[ryanwayer]

it looks to me like the lume section of the rep hands go out a little to far. it may not be but looks like it to me

Oh I see

Very nice rep you built! Thanks for posting, I'm still impressed by the h factory sausage dials.

Yes, This is the first time I buy H Factory, the Dial really good , It's almost 80% close to Gen, just a bit thinner but if compare with Noob sausage dial, H Win!

 

[rols16610]

very nice

 

[ALE7575]

Hi ryanwayer

Thanks for this interesting comparison.
And congrats for this fantastic replica you have built
This is actually impossible but the rep looks better than gen.

The CG noob looks the same or better than gen CG.
The case looks completely the same.
Crystal of Noob awesome gen like

I would like to know what is the version of PAM 005 gen because there are some strange differences in CG lever.

As you can see in below pic the ends of the lever are different, the roller end has different angles (yellow lines) and the external end has different shape (red arrow)

But the comparison made by Puretime in:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/ultimate-pam111m-teardown-86121
shows a lever Roller end almost the same in gen and 111rep, and the tip is almost the same too:

See the pics on this thread.

Concerning dial I honestly expected more from a sausage H maker dial, since the differences in thickness of Lume application are noticeable and is even different the shape of 6 marker. Is that due to an old version of gen Pam 005?

Please inform about the year letter series of PAM 005 gen.

ALE

 

[mysterio]

That's OP for you, inconsistencies even within the same model. Great comparison thread ryan. On a side note, did the remaining parts make a passable 005 rep?

 

[emmune]

Can we get some shots of the back/case engravings?

 

[ryanwayer]

Hi ryanwayer

Thanks for this interesting comparison.
And congrats for this fantastic replica you have built
This is actually impossible but the rep looks better than gen.

The CG noob looks the same or better than gen CG.
The case looks completely the same.
Crystal of Noob awesome gen like

I would like to know what is the version of PAM 005 gen because there are some strange differences in CG lever.

As you can see in below pic the ends of the lever are different, the roller end has different angles (yellow lines) and the external end has different shape (red arrow)



But the comparison made by Puretime in:
http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/ultimate-pam111m-teardown-86121
shows a lever Roller end almost the same in gen and 111rep, and the tip is almost the same too:


See the pics on this thread.

Concerning dial I honestly expected more from a sausage H maker dial, since the differences in thickness of Lume application are noticeable and is even different the shape of 6 marker. Is that due to an old version of gen Pam 005?


Please inform about the year letter series of PAM 005 gen.

ALE

I believe not all the Gen lever is 100% line up perfectly, I also have a Gen 111 bought from AD before, and the lever also has a little space between case, but just very little space only. I have sold it...so can't take picture, sorry about that.

Here are some additional pictures, hope it can helps

The thinner lever is Gen, Noob is a bit fatter.

Case Back, my Gen 005 is N series

Gen case back Swiss Made is well engraved, the rep H005 just a laser etched , but this is not important, because no one would open the case back , lol.

Gen Movement

Rep 005H movement

 

[ALE7575]

I believe not all the Gen lever is 100% line up perfectly, I also have a Gen 111 bought from AD before, and the lever also has a little space between case, but just very little space only. I have sold it...so can't take picture, sorry about that.
Here are some additional pictures, hope it can helps
The thinner lever is Gen, Noob is a bit fatter.
Case Back, my Gen 005 is N series
Gen case back Swiss Made is well engraved, the rep H005 just a laser etched , but this is not important, because no one would open the case back , lol.

Thank for the pics and info
Interesting info about gen differences
Like in some Hublots, that makes more easy the things for the replic makers.... LOL

Noticeable differences in lever thickness and in angles at the Roller end.
Just curious !
See angle A is bigger than angle B. the Roller end is shraper in gen.
See the lines marked with green arrows. The edge of the Roller end of the lever doesn't remain horizontal in rep as it happens in gen. I have already observed that in this batch of V3. Of course this is almost no noticeable in the real size and we are indicating these "flaws" for analytical purposes.

ALE

 

[emmune]

Thanks for the pics ryanwayer.

 

[Rwolf]

nice thread

 

[nlnlnlnene]

great thread.

 

[Bozz]

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=179599

 

[yongsit]

great one

 

[Isragg16]

Thanks for this Ryan.

Scary close to gen.