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NOOB quality
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Definitely having an issue with the lume on my noob PAM 111. Happy otherwise, but just doesn't seem to get much of luminescence that makes it a little more enjoyable at night. It looks great after a few minutes of a flashlight on it. For a bit. Anyone's have any ideas?
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Battery on a manual watch? Or a battery on an automatic mechanical non-quartz watch?
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Based on what I found, lume on gen pams with "L" sandwich (assuming c1 and/or c3) dial only lasts about 30 minutes too.
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I always wondered that. The lume is nice and strong on my noob v11, it lasts enough for me. Plus i can see it at night. My best lume is Luminox never need to charge it its always the same strength not too stong or weak just perfect at night and all night.
I got a new (and at the same time old) noob 390. I'm ready to subscribe to every word above. All the flaws can be taken ... The screws are terrible. I miraculously removed the strap. Now I understood why there were two of them in the kit. The chances are too high that the first will have to be cut in order to pull the rod out. There was almost no slot on it. Be very careful.
For the rest ... All said above, in terms of obvious shortcomings. But in general, I'm ready to say that this is not the noob behind which m2m was chased. Not a single common detail, and I'm not at all sure if any of them are better.
For the rest ... All said above, in terms of obvious shortcomings. But in general, I'm ready to say that this is not the noob behind which m2m was chased. Not a single common detail, and I'm not at all sure if any of them are better.
The 'New' Noob PAMs are a far cry from the 'Old' Noob PAM quality we expect, or are used to.
The dial fonts - Low crossbars on the A - the old Noobs had this flaw, but that was 7-8 years ago. I had to replace my 112 dial with one from Davidsen to get the A's right.
Low A's are something that is absolutely unacceptable today with current standards of manufacturing. Absolutely.
The caseback fonts/engraving on the new Noob PAM390 look like they were done by a 10 year old. Absolutely awful. The solid caseback should hide possible tells on the A6497, and not exhibit worse flaws!
Softer metal used for screwbars is cost cutting of the highest order, those need to be really robust, considering you'd change straps on a frequent basis.
It is impossible that it is indeed the 'older' Noob factory behind the new PAM re-releases - probably a new factory has taken over Noob's PAM line, but retained the Noob name.
Even if we were to make the argument that they are using newer/different suppliers for parts, and so there was a drop on quality, this is not an excuse.
For a product to carry the Noob brand name, it CANNOT be of this terrible quality. The flaws are too many to ignore.
This is tarnishing Noob's reputation in a big way. If they don't correct the flaws on these, and up their game with upcoming models, they won't get far.
More so as I see that XF is hitting PAMs out of the park.
The dial fonts - Low crossbars on the A - the old Noobs had this flaw, but that was 7-8 years ago. I had to replace my 112 dial with one from Davidsen to get the A's right.
Low A's are something that is absolutely unacceptable today with current standards of manufacturing. Absolutely.
The caseback fonts/engraving on the new Noob PAM390 look like they were done by a 10 year old. Absolutely awful. The solid caseback should hide possible tells on the A6497, and not exhibit worse flaws!
Softer metal used for screwbars is cost cutting of the highest order, those need to be really robust, considering you'd change straps on a frequent basis.
It is impossible that it is indeed the 'older' Noob factory behind the new PAM re-releases - probably a new factory has taken over Noob's PAM line, but retained the Noob name.
Even if we were to make the argument that they are using newer/different suppliers for parts, and so there was a drop on quality, this is not an excuse.
For a product to carry the Noob brand name, it CANNOT be of this terrible quality. The flaws are too many to ignore.
This is tarnishing Noob's reputation in a big way. If they don't correct the flaws on these, and up their game with upcoming models, they won't get far.
More so as I see that XF is hitting PAMs out of the park.
However, nevertheless, immediately after the re-release of the pam005 N series, the P series came out, made in the best traditions.
They seem to have opportunities. I hope that they will sell the first batches of bad samples, and will continue to make new high-quality batches.
Well, or at least they will withdraw from circulation the models with which they screwed up, and new ones will be made in normal quality.
In any case, this is all guesswork, but the fact is that most of it is done badly, but there is better light in this dark realm.
They seem to have opportunities. I hope that they will sell the first batches of bad samples, and will continue to make new high-quality batches.
Well, or at least they will withdraw from circulation the models with which they screwed up, and new ones will be made in normal quality.
In any case, this is all guesswork, but the fact is that most of it is done badly, but there is better light in this dark realm.
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Sorry to hear about that.
At the cost of ruining the strap, you could have tried clamping down on the tube with pliers hard (either through the strap, or cut off the strap to expose the tube), clamp down hard enough to crimp the tube against the screwbar running through it, then rotate to unscrew. You will have to discard both tube and screwbar once done.
However if the case lug threads are lousy, then this isn’t worth it anyway. It does work if you have a one-off stripped screwbar head/ stuck screwbar.
Yes, I hope there will be significant improvements in later versions.
Regarding Noob 005 P Series... overall it seems like a good replication. And the dial font is correct.
Well, except technically, to be honest .... 005 P Series was limited to a run of 1000 pieces:
While the Noob 005 P Series has the number 1500:
But really .... 99.9% of people would not know (or notice) that.
Except of course mysterio, dadog13, superspark69, kilowattore, erick510 and erekose!
And I can't forget ALE7575 but he's no longer active.
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We will wait for a photo from one of the participants who posted his QC, and promised to give detailed photos when he received it.
So far, most of the details seem to be different.
Thanks for finding the photo of gen. From a couple of blurry photos from chrono, I was unable to figure out when I was looking.
So far, most of the details seem to be different.
Thanks for finding the photo of gen. From a couple of blurry photos from chrono, I was unable to figure out when I was looking.