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noob and BP sub-c side by side

live1

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i cant see any qc pics either
 

mitchbaria

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It is QC pics, thankfully he didn't know how to post them correctly... I advised him on memory of bp sub-c and kindly explained to him that the posting of QC pics isn't allowed.


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This is the BP Factory watch I ordered, Please let me know what you guys think and be detailed in your analysis. Should I reject this watch from the seller and request a new one or do you think I should take this watch?


NO ! NO! You cant post Qc pics in any thread ! It is against the rules!!! You better edit your post FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The watch looks fine very good BP Sub C i would take it!!!!
 

Rudy40

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You only post QC pics if you have a real problem with the watch!!!
This ones is fine!!
 

Rudy40

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ok sorry guys i'll edit the post thanks

I just dont want to see you get in any trouble thats all!
The watch looks good get you a used NOOB FACTORY V2 get the dial and bracelet and transfer them to the BP and keep you BP insert in place until you can find another better one! Then you will have a close rep! Good luck!
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vdubpower

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I really dont what you are talking about here????
Are you saying the V2 looks the same as these GEN''' Pics or what???
Here are some pics of the V2 which isnt even close to the gen SubC
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Go Figure???

It isnt close to Gen but it is 99.9%
 

mitchbaria

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99.9% ???

Have you actually seen a gen sub-c in person or are you guessing this ridiculous number by looking at pictures?


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vdubpower

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That's my subjective opinion. Plus the dealers say these are one to one. Best. Supreme and ultimate. Dissected a Gen. What other proof do I need.

No seriously. To me. I can't tell. Someone would have to put the watches side by side and mark exactly the differences. Not just say the bezel is different or the dial is different. I need a specific. My eyes are not as sharp as yours.

The other watch that was always a topic for identical to Gen was the 111 pan. Is that struggle still going on
 

mitchbaria

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I'm not even going to do comparisons,,, for anyone to think that a 200 dollar rep, especially a bad one, is 99.any percent to a $8500 dollar Rolex work of art kinda speaks for itself. Lol

Oh the dealers told you! Lol


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It isnt close to Gen but it is 99.9%

99.9% Really?:thinking:
You been here longer than me. And you think this rep is 99% close?:thinking:
Wow i cant even respond LOL!!! Your killing me!!:rofl:
The watch is like any other rep! It has it"s flaws! But if you ever seen the Gen. You would change your mind !!! This NOOB V2 isnt even close my friend. And the dealer's will tell you what ever you want to hear to make a sale. Its the way they make a living!! I Don"t blame the dealer!
I blame the guy that don"t do there research!
Now!
If you are really interested in make a close to Gen' rep. You will have to have 2 watches. The BP and the Noob Sub C.
Take those two watches and make a good Sub C. But you still have the insert problem! . This is the only realistic way to have a good Sub C. Good luck brother!
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vdubpower

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so a "good sub C " is how close to gen, 50 percent there, 70 percent......again yes there are differences but if they are subtle enough to where the buyer cant tell or doesnt care


if the noob v 2 is not close to the gen, they why do u guys line up to get it.....obviously the factories are playing games with ya'll and make it close, putting out versions 100's so u'll keep buying them
 

Rudy40

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That's my subjective opinion. Plus the dealers say these are one to one. Best. Supreme and ultimate. Dissected a Gen. What other proof do I need.

No seriously. To me. I can't tell. Someone would have to put the watches side by side and mark exactly the differences. Not just say the bezel is different or the dial is different. I need a specific. My eyes are not as sharp as yours.

The other watch that was always a topic for identical to Gen was the 111 pan. Is that struggle still going on

The V2 on top!
Gen on the bottom!
Ok! The Dial on the V2 is the best to date!
But the insert is not as good as BP's. And the case is out of wakk!!!
The BP case set is much closer than the V2. All though the V2 is a improvment. But the case set is where the problem is! Look at the pics close. You can see the flaws your self! The cas is totaly different than the gen!
BlzvXbnl.jpg

HrZQJZrl.jpg

Here is where the BP case set is much better! The CG's are much closer to gen than the V2. Here is V2 on top! Gen on the bottom!
The cut out in the CG's are cut out in the wrong angle opposed to the Gen! Plus crown possition is wrong!
rBUrbjfl.jpg

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The V2 bracelet is also the best to date. Better than the BP bracelet. The V2 and BP can be put together and make a better rep!
But the V2 needs much much more work to be 99.9% close to gen!
Here are some more pics of gen VS V2 . Night and Day!
BlzvXbnl.jpg

U27Ky4Sl.jpg

rBUrbjfl.jpg

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vdubpower

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how bout this one ........95.3%

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j/k thanks for the description above....i see the differences clearly now..
 

mitchbaria

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I'm glad Rudy has posted enough for members to actually start to see some of the problems,,, with the v2 the sel is also bad but it's not the bracelet it's the v2 case is just severely askew,,, as the v2 bracelet plugs into a bp case like a glove....
Also I was serious when I said that all members truly interested in this build should go to a AD and actually look and handle a gen sub-c...Rolex really has knocked it out of the park with this watch! It is the now and the future of submariner,,,,the old days of 1680 to 16610 are gone forever,, Sub-c is here to stay and in my opinion PERFECT! All of the imperfection of the past are completely fixed and sub-c really is the best watch that Rolex has ever made...

The pictures do not sum this watch up, it has to be seen an handled to be appreciated....

As Rudy said a combination of noob and bp parts really makes a good rep but without an insert I'm dead in the water,,,, if anyone has seen a good modded ceramic bezel insert I'd like to see pics of it,,,

I need help finding this insert,, if anyone has info on a really good sub-c insert please pm me.....


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vdubpower

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tried on a gen 1680 the other day at tourneau, its lovely, 8000$ tho
 

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Rudy, what movement do you have in your V2? My crown position doesn't look like yours at all for some reason...