New Zealand

[iamsammajor]

you are 24? some time ago you pm'd about a watch I was selling and told me that "being in highschool its more difficult to save up" (hope this doesn't break forum rules)

and just to offer my 2 cents on bimmers, I've owned the last 2 generations of the 740 and they're really cheap to maintain, at least here in the UAE. Of course I never serviced them at the dealer, I just bought the parts and took them to a garage to have the work done.

Did i end up buying the watch? Lol


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[cornholio]

Collage,
paying off student loan is a bitch with mini wages


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yeah I know a few guys struggling with that, really sucks. It can be really difficult. Hang in there bro

 

[wooky492]

you are 24? some time ago you pm'd about a watch I was selling and told me that "being in highschool its more difficult to save up" (hope this doesn't break forum rules)

and just to offer my 2 cents on bimmers, I've owned the last 2 generations of the 740 and they're really cheap to maintain, at least here in the UAE. Of course I never serviced them at the dealer, I just bought the parts and took them to a garage to have the work done.

bud, everything is expensive in NZ.
besides, with prestige cars, you better maintain service record from dealership, with what depreciation, proper service records give you few more bucks when it comes to sell your car.
It's also more expensive in dealership because they use legit parts and they don't repair anything. they replace with new parts.

it's good for running it over a long time, but it's very costly.. [emoji30]

Besides the maintenance. . 4.4lt V8 with a car weighing near 2t, it is a gas guzzler. over 15lt/100km is making holes in my wallet. lol

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[cornholio]

bud, everything is expensive in NZ.
besides, with prestige cars, you better maintain service record from dealership, with what depreciation, proper service records give you few more bucks when it comes to sell your car.
It's also more expensive in dealership because they use legit parts and they don't repair anything. they replace with new parts.


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I dont trust the dealership here, a close friend of mine who worked at a merc dealer told me that they keep your car for a day or 2 for a job that really takes an hour, and in most cases when the issue is not serious, they keep your car for a few days and do nothing, then they bill for some work and parts that you wouldn't know have been changed either way. I've had a lot of arguments with dealers over the years and I've had quite a few cars. I'd rather swallow the depreciation but do maintenance at a garage where I can see for myself the work that they're doing.

 

[iamsammajor]

yeah I know a few guys struggling with that, really sucks. It can be really difficult. Hang in there bro

Just got mine formal job last month! Everything is getting on track


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[wooky492]

I dont trust the dealership here, a close friend of mine who worked at a merc dealer told me that they keep your car for a day or 2 for a job that really takes an hour, and in most cases when the issue is not serious, they keep your car for a few days and do nothing, then they bill for some work and parts that you wouldn't know have been changed either way. I've had a lot of arguments with dealers over the years and I've had quite a few cars. I'd rather swallow the depreciation but do maintenance at a garage where I can see for myself the work that they're doing.

ah I see. in such case, your choice is best.
We Kiwis are lucky that we as whole society pretty much run on trust.
there will be theiving bastards now and then but in general we can trust that you are paying for what's worth.
It's unfortunate your dealerships rely on robbing customers for their majn source of income. Good service always bring more customers later on..

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[d4m.test]

bud, everything is expensive in NZ.
besides, with prestige cars, you better maintain service record from dealership, with what depreciation, proper service records give you few more bucks when it comes to sell your car.
It's also more expensive in dealership because they use legit parts and they don't repair anything. they replace with new parts.

it's good for running it over a long time, but it's very costly.. [emoji30]

Besides the maintenance. . 4.4lt V8 with a car weighing near 2t, it is a gas guzzler. over 15lt/100km is making holes in my wallet. lol

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P, seriously bro, you need to weigh up the costs of those services to the loss you'll make for not having FDSH but FSH. Dealers are known scammers. You may make a few more $ on resale, but at what cost to your servicing. A while back I had an issue with a Nissan truck I used to have, the alternator was a Mitsubishi part and Nissan wanted £615 for it when I could get it on line for £120.

Anyways, I now run Sweedish. You cannot beat their quality and reliability. Had my XC90 for three years, and had no major issues. Oil and filter change at my indy only costs £55, I couldn't do it myself for that price as the engine takes like 7.8 litres of oil. Other than tyres, it's not expensive at all. And being a 2.4 diesel, I get half decent mpg (42 on a motorway run, 33 around town), with plenty of space for the family and dog.

 

[cornholio]

ah I see. in such case, your choice is best.
We Kiwis are lucky that we as whole society pretty much run on trust.
there will be theiving bastards now and then but in general we can trust that you are paying for what's worth.
It's unfortunate your dealerships rely on robbing customers for their majn source of income. Good service always bring more customers later on..

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The difference here is that we have ONE dealer per city, so they can pretty much do whatever they want. After 11k kms my bimmer started giving me "replace brake fluids" warnings, took to the dealer, the BMW tech got in the car with me and we went for a drive and he stopped and said "mate, im not officially doing this but.." and he pressed a few buttons and the warning disappeared. He told me that BMW programs these into their cars so that you go to the dealer and spend some money on it. He said my brake fluid was up to standard. This makes me think that its not just the dealer, but the manufacturer as a whole that robs and lies (see VW's recent problems) and they make the dealers do the same.

 

[cornholio]

Just got mine formal job last month! Everything is getting on track


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Great! good luck buddy

 

[wooky492]

yeah I hear you Bren. I know most countries have dealership problems like yours. I've had a few run in with dealership too when I was living overseas.
it's kinda funny here in NZ. Maybe I've had too bad experiences overseas or too good experiences in NZ, don't know which.
but if I take my car to a private garage/workshop, it will cost nearly same as dealership.
Margins on parts are so transparent here that you know what you are actually paying for each item and how much you are paying for services.
Going to a independent workshop would save me roughly $150 on $1,000 job. But I know, by paying additional $150 at dealership, I get complete check ups, full car wash amd polishing and professional vip service with coffee and snack at waiting lounge. Can't beat that! lol

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[Matt1989]

What the likely apprentice probably didn't tell you is they have sensors which detect moisture in the brake fluid and by cancelling the warning he saved himself doing a brake fluid flush which no mechanic ever wants to do.


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[Matt1989]

yeah I hear you Bren. I know most countries have dealership problems like yours. I've had a few run in with dealership too when I was living overseas.
it's kinda funny here in NZ. Maybe I've had too bad experiences overseas or too good experiences in NZ, don't know which.
but if I take my car to a private garage/workshop, it will cost nearly same as dealership.
Margins on parts are so transparent here that you know what you are actually paying for each item and how much you are paying for services.
Going to a independent workshop would save me roughly $150 on $1,000 job. But I know, by paying additional $150 at dealership, I get complete check ups, full car wash amd polishing and professional vip service with coffee and snack at waiting lounge. Can't beat that! lol

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I can tell you at my old workshop we got asked to price match jerry clayton quotes all the time. We could never compete, maybe come to within $500 if quoting on non genuine parts but that's the deal breaker isn't it.


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[wooky492]

The difference here is that we have ONE dealer per city, so they can pretty much do whatever they want. After 11k kms my bimmer started giving me "replace brake fluids" warnings, took to the dealer, the BMW tech got in the car with me and we went for a drive and he stopped and said "mate, im not officially doing this but.." and he pressed a few buttons and the warning disappeared. He told me that BMW programs these into their cars so that you go to the dealer and spend some money on it. He said my brake fluid was up to standard. This makes me think that its not just the dealer, but the manufacturer as a whole that robs and lies (see VW's recent problems) and they make the dealers do the same.

oi. that's real bad practice.
lucky our dealers don't do that.
if they get caught doing such, our strict consumer protection law would sting them real hard.
I've done commercial law so I'll explain in simple terms how well we are protected.
Here is an example, not car but mobile phone.
When you buy a mobile phone, it come with 1 year warranty right?
After that period, say 2 months, your phone mal functions.
You will take it to your phone retailer and ask for repair but the company will ask for your money.
But the law says company should provide reliable service expected by reasonable view.which means you don't expect it to just break after 1 year.
Now, they will say it is in written contract that the warranty expires after 1 year.
Doesn't matter, NZ consumer protection law demands you be looked after. so if they refuse, the sales staff who refused will be fined $50,000 and the company will be fined over $100,000.
Making it very hard to refuse.
Same law applies to any manufactured goods.
so such behavior like tinkering with on board computers will land them very harsh penalty here. Not worth thieving customers. [emoji12]

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[cornholio]

oi. that's real bad practice.

so such behavior like tinkering with on board computers will land them very harsh penalty here. Not worth thieving customers. [emoji12]

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Well in our case even the 1 year warranty is worth nothing, take that phone to the shop and they'll just say that the customer damaged the phone, they're very creative with their excuses haha

 

[wooky492]

Well in our case even the 1 year warranty is worth nothing, take that phone to the shop and they'll just say that the customer damaged the phone, they're very creative with their excuses haha

lol. then I hope everything is cheaper so you can just throw away and buy a new one. ;-D

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[Matt1989]

oi. that's real bad practice.
lucky our dealers don't do that.
if they get caught doing such, our strict consumer protection law would sting them real hard.
I've done commercial law so I'll explain in simple terms how well we are protected.
Here is an example, not car but mobile phone.
When you buy a mobile phone, it come with 1 year warranty right?
After that period, say 2 months, your phone mal functions.
You will take it to your phone retailer and ask for repair but the company will ask for your money.
But the law says company should provide reliable service expected by reasonable view.which means you don't expect it to just break after 1 year.
Now, they will say it is in written contract that the warranty expires after 1 year.
Doesn't matter, NZ consumer protection law demands you be looked after. so if they refuse, the sales staff who refused will be fined $50,000 and the company will be fined over $100,000.
Making it very hard to refuse.
Same law applies to any manufactured goods.
so such behavior like tinkering with on board computers will land them very harsh penalty here. Not worth thieving customers. [emoji12]

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This is exactly what I had to pull out on Rockys mobiles in Henderson a few years ago. Phone kept breaking he repaired it 3 times with non genuine parts.

When I printed out the consumer rights act and put it in front of him he threw my money at me over the counter. Think he might have been from UAE or somewhere like that. Seems like he's used to ripping people off anyway.


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[wooky492]

LOL

Good on you mate!
Unfortunately, not many NZers are aware that they are protected from big companies' exploitative practices.
Some people will always take a chance at you. I had to pull one at OPSM for glasses not long ago.

This is exactly what I had to pull out on Rockys mobiles in Henderson a few years ago. Phone kept breaking he repaired it 3 times with non genuine parts.

When I printed out the consumer rights act and put it in front of him he threw my money at me over the counter. Think he might have been from UAE or somewhere like that. Seems like he's used to ripping people off anyway.


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[iamsammajor]

LOL

Good on you mate!
Unfortunately, not many NZers are aware that they are protected from big companies' exploitative practices.
Some people will always take a chance at you. I had to pull one at OPSM for glasses not long ago.

Generally we have good customer experience here in nz i reckon


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[Matt1989]

LOL

Good on you mate!
Unfortunately, not many NZers are aware that they are protected from big companies' exploitative practices.
Some people will always take a chance at you. I had to pull one at OPSM for glasses not long ago.

I highly recommend Vision X in Parnell, best optometrist I have ever been to.


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[wooky492]

I highly recommend Vision X in Parnell, best optometrist I have ever been to.


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Thanks Matt,
I've actually got a great service from SpecSavers.
Surprisingly good for a mass franchise.
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