new PAM372 , new movement

[Ruski91]

looks like pearling is in fact there, just those jewels ... so close yet so far

 

[cubicle_monkey]

looks like pearling is in fact there, just those jewels ... so close yet so far

Of course, they need a reason for V2/V3 :anonymous:

 

[sharrkey]

Of course, they need a reason for V2/V3 :anonymous:

Lmfao, so sad, but so true

 

[Sora]

lol... 399,372,422 maker guess they realised they need to up their game since other makers were making the 372

 

[peterpl]

Farrkkk....looks soo good. Lucky I didnt buy the previous version. This movement looks f**kin awesome

 

[leandim]

Puretime price : US$ 388

 

[ALE7575]

It is really curious because just yesterday I wrote below post in a Ruski's thread about decorated movements:

http://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php?t=167791&p=1691683&viewfull=1#post-1691683

I was talking about the impossibility of getting accuracy from decorated movements based in standard movements, just nice and similar movements but never an accurate movement.
I said that decorated movements are not a step to the clone movement, they really are steps to stop the projects of real clones.
I also wrote: "Maybe this is a necessary step before the new projects, but we really need to push makers to get the real clone"

Well this new movement is IMO a real step to the real clone and indeed maybe a clone.
It is not obviously a real exact copy or clone (like A7750 is), because there are some evident differences in jewels placement, quantity of jewels, some fixation screws...etc..

For me there are some weird things like to see a different escapement wheel, you cannot see the rep escapement wheel whereas is evident in gen movement and you cannot see some wheels of gear train perfectly visible in gen movement.

The general layout is good, as you can see in above pic, with almost exact position of Balance wheel, overall very similar bridges and plates cuts, and this movement features, for first time in a rep of a PAM Manifattura, an accurate bridge of the Balance Wheeel-Incabloc system, although no perfect as you can see (I don't know why is not completely exact)

I'm not an expert in movements, but maybe more expert people can tell us if this is a complete new project to get a clone, or it is just a clone based in another existent movement.

I don't understand the inaccuracy of all inscriptions with completely different font shape and size. Only the serial number seems accurate. Another time, as we can see too frequently in last rep releases, many time and money spent in some parts to get ruined the final result with silly inaccuracies.
Besides, some additional screws and mainly some additional "jewels" had been very interesting to get a more gen-like appearance.

Competition between makers is good for overall quality, but commercial urgency and pressure ruins many times the final product.

Anyway, perhaps this is not yet a definitive and real exact clone , but IMHO it is already the first real real step to a PAM Manifattura clone.

Don't forget that the rest of the watch seems the same version of first PAM 372 released by Puretime in June 2013

Thanks for the effort to Angus and people involved

ALE

 

[peterpl]

They did everything so well.......tell the factory to include the missing jewels please!!! should be simple task.

 

[jeorge345]

Yes!

 

[mvyzfr1]

Seems an excellent first step. Considering that as ALE has said, if just yesterday you asked anyone of the forum if something this close was to be available anytime soon, I believe the answer of everyone would have been no. Now today, we can place orders for a watch with a movement that looks quite close to a unique in-house movement.

 

[cubicle_monkey]

I'm really curious to see whats underneath it all. I'm highly skeptical that they would be able to rep an actual in-house movement. If they did, this begins the next chapter in replica watches and gets us that much closer to 1:1 reps in terms of looks if not actual quality(finishing, etc).

 

[Bozz]

awesome

 

[Luigipetrone]

do you guys think that the movement is compatible to the older versions case? possible to source just the movement?

 

[ALE7575]

I'm really curious to see whats underneath it all. I'm highly skeptical that they would be able to rep an actual in-house movement. If they did, this begins the next chapter in replica watches and gets us that much closer to 1:1 reps in terms of looks if not actual quality(finishing, etc).

I have the same thoughts and doubts

ALE

 

[marlin2284]

I'm really curious to see whats underneath it all. I'm highly skeptical that they would be able to rep an actual in-house movement. If they did, this begins the next chapter in replica watches and gets us that much closer to 1:1 reps in terms of looks if not actual quality(finishing, etc).

I have the same thoughts and doubts

ALE

By the looks of the it is a movement, the internals are nothing like the gen, but they have to start somewhere. I thing it is a great leap forward in replication it will move forward in improvements little by little, remember that's how they make there money.

 

[mvyzfr1]

I have to wonder about reliability and timing accuracy on something like this. I suppose we will have to wait to see what this movement really consists of and for them to be in service for a while to see.

 

[thefever]

At a quick glance it looks very gen. Definitely a major improvement.

 

[ericb196]

this is really interesting, but the reliability issues are a big potential concern !

 

[Et3r17al]

This is what I have been waiting for!! Cool, imagine the number of reps that this movement can go into.

Quick glance definitely 1:1, but they had to make a fake balance wheel that doesn't move...


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[Sora]

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