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New here. Can I get something for 200€ or do I have to spend about 800€?

costofmore

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How do you imagine import tax does work on a counterfeit item?

Quick answer: there's nothing like that. You need to order and be prepared to wait patiently. It the watch gets seized by customs the TD will send you a new one.
I‘m tempted to risk it o_O $370 from Andiotwatches. I read good stuff about them in another thread.
 

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You can't go wrong with the VSF. It's a great rep with a great movement. Good start. Elliot has a good reputation too.
 
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I was leaning towards 183 vsf 40mm sub no date vs3130 , 479 usd shipped, because I read in another thread that no date = no risk.
As the Rolex 114060 (40mm submariner no date) would be a great choice for a first Rolex, the VSF 114060 would be a great choice for your first rep. You can't go wrong with that one. It's a very well made watch that is very easy to wear on every occasion. I have it and I can tell you that I feel/see almost no difference between that watch and my gen Rolexes.

No date = no risk is BS. Of course it's harder to replicate the perfect date font, alignment and magnification but these are minimal and barely noticeable issues IMO. Always remember that there is no perfect replica, just the one that you like more. So get the one you like.

KjVikD.webp
 

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There is a UK based dealer with a fair number of mid tier watches. Personally, I'd recommend get a VSF (preferred) or clean sub for your first to start your journey off on a high note.
 

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I can only agree with the previous speaker. In my opinion, look at a VSF Submariner and or Clean Datejust. You're definitely not doing anything wrong there. In the beginning, if you want to buy a new watch, I recommend that you buy it from a Trusted Dealer.
Personally, I bought from the M2M area through this forum at the beginning and was very satisfied.
 
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VSF Submariner is a Green Light for sure. Go with that.

@Karbon74 deal stated is reasonable with no customs risks and no import tax or issues.

Good day.
 
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