New Ginault Ocean Rover II - Details and Specs

[Oris]

Here are first details of the Ocean Rover II.

Please excuse the quality of the screencaps; these images were downloaded from a post on a Facebook discussion group.

The main differences appear to be:

1) The introduction of Swiss SW200 movements.
2) Triple layer AR coated flat or domed crystals and the option of date mag for both domed and flat crystals on date models.
3) An engraved ceramic 'Sea-Dweller' style 60 minute graduated bezel insert.
4) A new 'quattro-coil' bezel ratcheting system, which sounds like the system used on ceramic Subs.
5) A slightly improved and revised bracelet and clasp

Retail and pre-order pricing are discussed in the last screencap.
The concerns many have expressed about a lack of Swiss movements for the price have been addressed with the Sellita.
It'll be interesting to see how traditional 5 digit dimensions look with the new ceramic bezel inserts, and to see how the watch goes on to present 'in the metal'.

 

[The Rod]

Cannot see anything unfortunately

 

[Hinclimincli]

Same here, Oris please repost the pics. MY AMEX COMMANDS YOU!

(Actually my Amex is looking at me with a mix of fear and resignation right now...)

 

[Ishmael]

Yes what’s this now?


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[sinsir]

Same here, Oris please repost the pics. MY AMEX COMMANDS YOU!

(Actually my Amex is looking at me with a mix of fear and resignation right now...)

It should at $1700

 

[Oris]

Edited to hopefully show the photos for you Hinclimincli sinsir Ishmael The Rod dtox
Also added some updated ones.

 

[Hinclimincli]

Thanks Oris! Definitely interested, but price is a bit steep. Still, a ceramic looking but the soul of a vintage milsub is just something I would regret passing on!

Expect some movement from my side on m2m soon. I don't even discard getting some gens off (like the one in my profile pic!).

 

[phdsjain]

Can someone who can view the images re-upload via Picr.me or Tapatalk?

 

[Ishmael]

I still can’t see em

 

[sinsir]

I could see them before the edit but now I can't. I'm on mobile browser vs crapatalk.

 

[Ishmael]

Can someone repost the pics? Not on the Ginault site either.

 

[TimeFocus]

We are happy to present you the details and specs of the Ocean Rover II.

Delivery is scheduled to begin at the end of Q3 (estimate) in the order it was received.

Attached is an illustration of the Ocean Rover II. Pictures of the actual prototype will follow in the months to come. Be sure to follow us on our Instagram. Two things to note, all the no-date variants are now equipped with flat crystals (with AR). Domed crystal (no AR) can be installed upon request. All date variants have a flat crystal (AR) with a 2.5x magnifier over the date windows. Non-Cyclops crystal (flat or domed) can be installed upon request.

Appearance-wise, it remains 95% identical to the first generation. However, the second generation Rovers have gone through major internal upgrades. I highlighted the changes/upgrades in bold.
40mm pre-ceramic style case, chamfered lugs, no holes
high-gloss enamel dial, forged applied indices
beveled sword hour/minute hands, custom Ginault red-second hand
Sellita SW200-1 (or CAL7275 by request), 5 positions 6-week regulated
ceramic insert, engraved, 60min fully graduated, lume pip at 12 o'clock (aluminum insert can be mounted upon request)
gen II bezel assembly, structurally redesigned with a new Quattro-Coil support system for the most amazing turning and tactile feedback, the outer ring is slightly re-profiled with deeper, sharper teeth for a better grip
triple layer optometry grade (clear coating, no blue-hue) anti-reflective sapphire
gen II 94530G bracelet, tighter mid-link tolerance, slightly re-profiled clasp for enhanced comfort and durability, 3 x 3 permanent link design allows a perfect fit even for the slender wrist.
In terms of pricing, the retail price for Ocean Rover II no-date version will be $1,499, and $1,699 for the date with cyclops version.

Phase 1 of the pre-order (500 units, strict limit), customers will enjoy a special $200 instant cash discount, meaning it will just be $1,299, and $1,499 for the no-date and date with cyclops variants respectively. On top of that, we will do an additional 20% off for our customers!

Phase 2, prices will go back to the regular retail price of $1,499 and $1,699 plus a 25% discount.

Right now, phase 1 of the pre-order will be by invite only. We want to give our loyal customers who have supported the brand and our vision highest priority.

A pre-order may be canceled and refunded in full before August 28th.

You are cordially invited to join phase 1 of the pre-order via the links below. A deposit option ($400) can be selected. ( also we kindly ask to not share the order links publicly)
Ocean Rover II No-Date (Click Here)
Ocean Rover II Date (Click Here)

For customers residing in the EU, we have been using our EU dispatch service to ship, meaning our EU customers will receive packages from within the EU. This way EU customers won't need to worry about customs issues and fees. We will take care of it on our end. How it works is that after the order is placed, we will ship the watch from our shop to our EU dispatch, and then it will be forwarded out to our EU customers. A tracking number will be available 3-5 working days after the package leaves the EU dispatch. Total lead time is around 15-25 working days after order is shipped from our workshop.



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[phdsjain]

Wish they'd offer Mercedes hands as an option. And absolutely no need for the 'Submersible Maritime' line of text– cluttering the dial.

 

[TimeFocus]

Actually, I like the sword hands. I think the Mercedes hands are for pure replicas. This model is a combination of classic attributes from different submariners over time.

I agree the text is overdone.

I like that they are doing a custom gold sand (including date wheel and pearl color) in combination with the blue bezel.

I ordered two, one as a gift.

Mine is black bezel and blue smurf lume with date.


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[TimeFocus]

In other words, I requested a custom order and they agreed.


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[thediesel17]

has anybody received the OR2 yet?

 

[thediesel17]

just to share some comparison pictures with a 116610

 

[thediesel17]

In terms of performance and accuracy, based on our experience ETA 2824 (used back in the BM1 days) SW200-1, and our 7275 is all about the same.

In terms of long term durability, both ETA 2824 and SW200-1 have a proven track record. I can't back 7275 with the same statement as it still needs time for it to gain its proven track record. All I can say now is that I wouldn't be surprised if the 7275 turns out a similar report down the road.

That said, Swiss movements are better known and valued more by the general market. Value retention wise, I don't think you can go wrong with having a Swiss movement inside.

There is a lot of incomplete information out there regarding movement quality, durability, and so on. If you spend enough time reading you will find almost all movement brands (ETA, Sellita, STP, Soprod, Eterna) have had their fair share of fail stories. Some say one is better than the other but the reality is, based on our past experience, they are pretty much on par with each other. The real difference is in what the brand does with the movements after receiving them. Many micro or even some major Swiss brands don't QC and regulate their movements after receiving them from the suppliers while they should have done that.

The Swiss movements we receive will go through the same 5-position 6-week in house tuning.

Since we are on the topic of movement, I'd like to let you know that we changed our 6-week regulation process of the movement from after encasing to prior. We then added an additional 7-12 days of testing after the movement is cased as part of the final QC to make sure everything (timing and power reserve) is within spec after cased before we ship.


In case you are wondering, this is what we do during the 6 week regulation period for each movement. We keep the movement on a winder each week with different rotational cadence/matrix doing our best simulating different wearing habits. We then clock each movement several times during the week and conduct individualized fine-tuning/adjustment based on the output. While we are trying our best to mitigate timing variance, a variance between lab-clocked results vs real-life performance is inevitable. If the movement is within 10spd to the lab clocked result it is considered to be Elabore grade by Swiss standard. 20 spd deviance is considered standard grade and is rare with our watches.

I hope this helps.

Sincerely

John McMurtry

This is the answer of Ginault's support regarding the movement choice (in case anybody is hesitating or can't decide which to go for):

 

[mech500]

Dude should pack this ginault business up and go back to making TC subs ????


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[thediesel17]

I ordered two, one as a gift.

Mine is black bezel and blue smurf lume with date.

when did you order and have you received them yet?