Looks like the factory complete failed in repping it . I wish they improve all the flaws at the earliest. I had the funds ready. But for this shitty rep I prefer to save for some other rep.
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It's also pretty much confirmed now that all have number 1249 on the dial, so no running numbers.
All pics I've seen this far have 1249.
Not sure if you can call this a flaw but it's at least lazy by the factory, we've seen plenty of other reps that do have different serial numbers or limited edition numbers.
All pics I've seen this far have 1249.
Not sure if you can call this a flaw but it's at least lazy by the factory, we've seen plenty of other reps that do have different serial numbers or limited edition numbers.
Exactly, was prepared to pull the trigger too. I posted the errors in the SF thread that Angus started. Maybe it will alert him. I was prepared to buy both variants of this watch, but not without at LEAST the PR colour being fixed, Breguet engraving on the movement, and 7067 model number changed to 7057. SF is also repping a Lange watch this year? If this is the mistakes they'll be making for that watch I'll pass up on that release too.
I mean from some point of view it looks like a slightly improved 7027 ( they dont even sell them on canalstreet lol
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They get all the hard stuff correct and then fuck up the really simple stuff.
These flaws should have never even been a problem. With their level of attention to details I am surprised they didn't misspell Breguet on the dial!
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We waiting for RM 11 and Lange , this first one go wrong , let's hope these two coming watch 1:1
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The problem now is that nobody wants to buy that watch --> factory (according to their logic) will think this modell is not very popular --> no V2 -> discontinuing ... but the reason why we will not buy this is the shitty quality .
Same story goes for the AP 15202
Exactly. Hopefully Angus can relay the message to SF. The watch isn't a no-seller, we don't feel like investing $400 USD into something that is 95% finished. I don't really see what changed from the prototype to this final release!
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Given all the flaws. I have to give it to the Rep Factories for an brilliant attempt I am really hopefully for a brighter future of this Hobby.
Guys remember that rep is a rep it will never be a gen. However super duper rep it is it's still a rep.
I do agree that that PR indicator color is wrong. I saw the gen yesterday. I can confirm that it is a shiny mirror finished metal not flat white color like this.
Secondly the bridge sizes are wrong because I believe that the grear and the balance have a smaller diameter on the rep than gen. So i think for keeping the asthetics or dimmentions correct the bridges are smaller or in the wrong place.
Thridly the Engravings issue is nothing new in the Rep world. Remember it's China not Switzerland
So remembering that it is a rep I still think it is a Brilliant effort on the factories part. We can only encourage them to take such bold steps to make/imporve on these watches.
It's just my opinion, you may have different opinion than me.
Guys remember that rep is a rep it will never be a gen. However super duper rep it is it's still a rep.
I do agree that that PR indicator color is wrong. I saw the gen yesterday. I can confirm that it is a shiny mirror finished metal not flat white color like this.
Secondly the bridge sizes are wrong because I believe that the grear and the balance have a smaller diameter on the rep than gen. So i think for keeping the asthetics or dimmentions correct the bridges are smaller or in the wrong place.
Thridly the Engravings issue is nothing new in the Rep world. Remember it's China not Switzerland
So remembering that it is a rep I still think it is a Brilliant effort on the factories part. We can only encourage them to take such bold steps to make/imporve on these watches.
It's just my opinion, you may have different opinion than me.
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Yes that's true , but don't forget these factories spend thousands dollars to buy gen sample , and it's not something hard factory buy a gen or used Gen , the strange they have the gen and and repp wroooong
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Sf now have Gen Lang , ZF now have Gen Rm 11 and Gen Glashute moonface ,
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@MasterWatch . Yeah its a rep , but the overall quality compare to OTHER reps at this pricepoint is a desaster . And yes its China not Switzerland but when i develop a watch a 20 second google research could show me all the engravings and reference number in high res. So thats no excuse for me . Other rep factory can do it also. If you fell okay spending 400 bucks on this piece its okay . But bear in mind that the factories then will keep ignoring us . We need to ignore 2-3 modells of a watch completely and then give them a message trough Angus or another well known td and lets look what happens than. Or just stick to Noob and JF which are the Nr. In the repworld for a reason...
Edit: intime just released a Gen vs. Rep JF AP http://www.intime01.co/content/97-news-ap-diver-chronograph-jf-vs-genuine
Look at this superb quality that thing looks and feels like a gen (but its a rep) . So how can JF make a 1:1 superreplica (the only tell is a slightly wrong subdial spacing about 1mm)and this factory produce a watch with so many simple flaws ? That has nothing to do with possibilities of a rep factory , its just laziness and profit. But the factory will sooner or later get the short straw in the rep biz.
The only reason why such bad reps in 2017 exist are people that would buy/accept anything and everything regardless of it flaws...
But thats just my opinion :/
Edit: intime just released a Gen vs. Rep JF AP http://www.intime01.co/content/97-news-ap-diver-chronograph-jf-vs-genuine
Look at this superb quality that thing looks and feels like a gen (but its a rep) . So how can JF make a 1:1 superreplica (the only tell is a slightly wrong subdial spacing about 1mm)and this factory produce a watch with so many simple flaws ? That has nothing to do with possibilities of a rep factory , its just laziness and profit. But the factory will sooner or later get the short straw in the rep biz.
The only reason why such bad reps in 2017 exist are people that would buy/accept anything and everything regardless of it flaws...
But thats just my opinion :/
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The rep forums sales is maybe 1% of their total sales so if you do that you'll still be ignored. On the other hand only forum members in 99% of the case know about the flaws compared to the gen..
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According to Angus its about 20-30% . And i already said it 2-3times . The problem is not that this watch is not 1:1 with gen (thats impossible) the problem is that this factory completely fucked up this rep qualitywise and made some serious flaws which other factories never would do .even after we pointed them out on the prototype and they said yes we will change the color they didnt. And yeah just browse trough this thread . Everyone wanted this watch but after today i would say about 95% stepped back . No way i spend 400dollar on this watch . And if they continue working with such attitude they will get the short straw not because us but because of the other factories like JF and Noob (yes they also have little flaws but they work on another lvl)
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See that's exactly what I mean when I say it's a rep. You are pay $400 for a replica of a watch that cost $15-20K in gen. So you can't really expect the details of a $15K watch on a sub $400 watch.
And as Angus said we (forums) only maybe count as 30% or even less of the rep market. And if a model doesn't sell well it's not going to encourage the rep factories to make that model better. They would just stop making them all together no more development on that particular model. See the rep factories keep on developing the Diver and the Submariner s because they sell well at every little improvement they make.
Just my 2¢
Whilst it's likely there will not be any change before common release, we can still hope that it is only a late prototype still. They may be able to fix some fits before common release? I hope? Please?
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@MasterWatch i think we talk past each other . No one is expecting a finish of a 15k watch . But the factory screwed this up! There is no excuse this time . This watch is not worth 400$ . We are not talking about non fixable movement flaws or a wrong tourby we are talking about completely wrong engravings and wrong paintjob maybe its just because im German but this logic of the repmakers doesnt go in my head , why tf did they buy a 7067 (with no intention to rep this modell) to replicate a 7057?! What kind of logic and business is this? The gen that the bought is even more expensive and complicated than the 7057 ...
Its just about profit ,ripping of and laziness .
Thats my 2c
Its just about profit ,ripping of and laziness .
Thats my 2c