New AP 26240 with 4401 Super Clone movement is coming

[felixgun123]

Gen dial. It happens to come with the rest of the gen watch.

I believe its APF V2 or something........

 

[felixgun123]

100% this is not ASPS dial ..even the whole watch perhaps... What are the Specs??? very very curious!! I think it's the AP factory just on the outskirts of Guangzhou city... some 7500 kms outside to the west?

It is indeed down to the specific kilometers

 

[greekgod]

It is indeed down to the specific kilometers

Hahah so do you have the APSF as well or just your gen? I would love to see the side by side 4K UltraHD Video 2160p Resolution!!! if you have both

 

[Rangerfan]

Amen, Amen we speak the same language and have the same OCD. Issue I have is not with the watch, but I would be willing to pay top dollars for a custom dial if they can fix the main couple of things. 1. the subdial rings and 2. the actual colour of the dial, which I believe is a little darker and dull on the rep compared to the Gen! ( this is my feeling I could be wrong) Also the pattern and the words "Auditors Piguet" aer not floating but sunken.

I definitely need the screws polished and aligned. I need the brushing of the the watch for a better finish. And I need a good crystal. For me, 100% 22k Gold rotor. I want a lot more for my Rep than what the factory puts out, it's the customization which I enjoy more than what I would enjoy with a stock watch as is. Of course my standard are different to others and I keep them high. 'Really good' just doesn't cut it... It must be a the top of the game (within my own limits of course)

I totally respect that. And I agree with rebrushing and refinishing the watch, band and bezel screws. I think the stock crystal is actually supposed to be pretty good, so decided not to go for, e.g. a Deep crystal (I understand the allure, but in the end I bought into the argument that the APS crystal is pretty close to a gen experience relative to a double AR crystal). Then there is the rotor, which I really thought about (especially when the V.1 rotor was what was available. But in the end, for me, without the durability (or at least the commitment to product) of the genuine AP (or even a Tissot), spending $1,000 - $1,200 to put a 22k rotor on an $880 watch was just a little too much. $3,350/oz gold makes a gold rotor kind of a luxury, although I was pretty torn because it does truly improve the look of the watch from the back, and the extra mass has to help winding efficiency and PR. And, on the plus side, a 22k rotor can always be sold for it’s gold value if the movement dies and cannot be replaced some day, so it would not be a total loss (or maybe any loss at all). In the end, I floated the idea of adding a CNC 22k rotor to my 26240 by my wife, who was solidly and decidedly unimpressed by the value proposition (which I am confident would not have been the case had I floated the idea of just going out and buying myself a genuine RO). So, rather than fight the rotor battle, I decided a brass rotor (at least with the correct font!) on a fully serviced movement was just right for me. I do really wish a gold-plated tungsten rotor was an option, but alas….

Interestingly, I have a few reps and an ARF Sprite on order, and other than getting the movements serviced, I am pretty much very happy OOB. I do feel differently about the AP though. I own a gen gold AP Bamboo that was my father’s (currently residing with the AP service center), and a gen vintage 18K AP from the late ‘50s or early ‘60 with a Cal2003 that was my grandfather’s. APs have always meant more to me, so I decided some mods to make the stock 26240 a little more refined (if not gen) made sense for me. Of course, YMMV.

 

[Markaplan]

The truth is, you do get a small percentage of gens with less than perfect bezel screw alignments as well. Gen or rep, it’s always about what you see and what you mind, it doesn’t matter what someone else says or thinks. We all have different depths of attention to details and tolerances so what really matters is how the watch looks to you.

But in the same way, it’s important to remember that what you see as an unacceptable flaw on a watch, is something perfectly acceptable to the owner.

Gen is Gen, and the rest are just novelty watches which aren’t really luxury timepieces but replicas. These replicas have come a long way and are respectable when visual accuracy go, especially considering the prices they go for. How far one wishes to take his watch is up to the individual and there is no right or wrong answer.

I agree 10000% with @legend, even GEN watches sometimes have flaws.
Two of the many Gen Rolex watches I bought over the years, the insert triangle at 12 is not 100% centered with the dial and not even 90% there. While my Frankens are perfectly centered!!
Today two of my GMTs have a different bolder DW font although they are both GEN.

As many of us said. We are all different. We have our own opinion and can live with different kinds of flaws and we should appreciate this great rep. It is about 1/60th the price of a Gen. You get a lot of value for what you spend.

In my opinion Rep factories try to make their watches better and better when it comes to big flaws but they don’t have strong quality control and this is why they have manufacturing defaults.
They also probably learn from this forum especially with the TDs giving them so much input.

A lot of us have OCD on different flaws. Some on bezel screws others on dial markers etc . .

In my opinion maybe more than 90% of the people who buy reps have no idea about these flaws and they don’t even know what RWI is.

I remember the first AP rep I bought was the JF safari offshore in 2019. At that time I had a GEN elephant and did not notice a difference. It was great and I enjoyed it a lot. After a few months I felt it was a bit thicker compared to my GEN but thought maybe because it’s a different watch. When I typed the word replica AP safari on google, RWI link was among the first.

As many of us said and in my opinion the biggest tell is your life style. How do you own a collection of watches that are $300,000 value in Gen and your car is only worth $20,000 and you don’t even own a house and based on your job people estimate you only make $4,000 per month. You know what I mean.

I once read that most of the people who buy rep watches are rich and they can afford to buy the GENs. People around them will not even suspect.

Today I am part of this great community and I really enjoy building watches and seeing them getting closer and closer to GEN. Most of the Frankens I build I usually have a Gen one. I sell the GEN once I am satisfied with the Franken, especially with Rolex.
I actually like my Frankens more than my GENs. Every extra gen part or mod I add to the Franken makes my day. I always stare at my wrist and appreciate how close the Franken is getting to the GEN.
LOL most frankens hold their value like GEN. The resell prices in our community are great in my opinion.

Enjoy your reps my friends, this is a great community and we learn from each other every day.

 

[CrazyOCD.RepWearer]

Hmm… I haven’t checked the 26240, but this was the APSF 15500 when I oiled the bearings…

Maybe the 26240 is the same (same factory and similar construction after all)..

Does this save anyone from buying brass or gold?

 

[legend]

I got my QC photos for the black ceramic version.
What do you guys think ??

I think that you should first read the rules. Posting QC pics in general asking for opinions isn’t allowed here. Don’t do it again.

Besides it’s your watch. Why do you need someone else telling you if it’s ok? If you like it, get it. If you don’t know what to look for, then you won’t know the difference anyway.

 

[CrazyOCD.RepWearer]

The truth is, you do get a small percentage of gens with less than perfect bezel screw alignments as well. Gen or rep, it’s always about what you see and what you mind, it doesn’t matter what someone else says or thinks. We all have different depths of attention to details and tolerances so what really matters is how the watch looks to you.

But in the same way, it’s important to remember that what you see as an unacceptable flaw on a watch, is something perfectly acceptable to the owner.

Gen is Gen, and the rest are just novelty watches which aren’t really luxury timepieces but replicas. These replicas have come a long way and are respectable when visual accuracy go, especially considering the prices they go for. How far one wishes to take his watch is up to the individual and there is no right or wrong answer.

It’s less about the alignment for me, and more about the uncentered screw milling of the slots. I’ve realigned my screws but there’s nothing I can do about the slots short of laser welding to fill, grinding, cutting and polishing. And I can only handle the polishing

When the factories are placing orders for screws by the thousands, they also should be demanding better. However in their illicit no-loss industry, everything gets packed and delivered to customers. It’s not a favorite part of the hobby for me. Yes, it’s at an extraordinarily steep discount, but when they’ve already demonstrated better bezel screws on other reps, it’s not really out of bounds to ask for better.

 

[legend]

It’s less about the alignment for me, and more about the uncentered screw milling of the slots. I’ve realigned my screws but there’s nothing I can do about the slots short of laser welding to fill, grinding, cutting and polishing. And I can only handle the polishing

When the factories are placing orders for screws by the thousands, they also should be demanding better. However in their illicit no-loss industry, everything gets packed and delivered to customers. It’s not a favorite part of the hobby for me. Yes, it’s at an extraordinarily steep discount, but when they’ve already demonstrated better bezel screws on other reps, it’s not really out of bounds to ask for better.

You are definitely not wrong to ask for better on whatever detail.
But without this rep being produced at all, there will be no such issue to deal with either.
The factory producing this replica model created the opportunity for each member to pick on the part which bothers them the most.
But not one person will say "hey, the price is not gen like at all!"

 

[aHero]

You are definitely not wrong to ask for better on whatever detail.
But without this rep being produced at all, there will be no such issue to deal with either.
The factory producing this replica model created the opportunity for each member to pick on the part which bothers them the most.
But not one person will say "hey, the price is not gen like at all!"

My dealer said she will accept gen price so I can have a gen like experience.

 

[greekgod]

I totally respect that. And I agree with rebrushing and refinishing the watch, band and bezel screws. I think the stock crystal is actually supposed to be pretty good, so decided not to go for, e.g. a Deep crystal (I understand the allure, but in the end I bought into the argument that the APS crystal is pretty close to a gen experience relative to a double AR crystal). Then there is the rotor, which I really thought about (especially when the V.1 rotor was what was available. But in the end, for me, without the durability (or at least the commitment to product) of the genuine AP (or even a Tissot), spending $1,000 - $1,200 to put a 22k rotor on an $880 watch was just a little too much. $3,350/oz gold makes a gold rotor kind of a luxury, although I was pretty torn because it does truly improve the look of the watch from the back, and the extra mass has to help winding efficiency and PR. And, on the plus side, a 22k rotor can always be sold for it’s gold value if the movement dies and cannot be replaced some day, so it would not be a total loss (or maybe any loss at all). In the end, I floated the idea of adding a CNC 22k rotor to my 26240 by my wife, who was solidly and decidedly unimpressed by the value proposition (which I am confident would not have been the case had I floated the idea of just going out and buying myself a genuine RO). So, rather than fight the rotor battle, I decided a brass rotor (at least with the correct font!) on a fully serviced movement was just right for me. I do really wish a gold-plated tungsten rotor was an option, but alas….

Interestingly, I have a few reps and an ARF Sprite on order, and other than getting the movements serviced, I am pretty much very happy OOB. I do feel differently about the AP though. I own a gen gold AP Bamboo that was my father’s (currently residing with the AP service center), and a gen vintage 18K AP from the late ‘50s or early ‘60 with a Cal2003 that was my grandfather’s. APs have always meant more to me, so I decided some mods to make the stock 26240 a little more refined (if not gen) made sense for me. Of course, YMMV.

Well, that sounds like one ap family no pun intended

 

[pam63C]

My dealer said she will accept gen price so I can have a gen like experience.

I am more than willing to pay gen MSRP for the Royal Oak as I treasures gen experience but my AD still doesn't want to sell to me.

 

[munichman]

but my AD still doesn't want to sell to me

It´s not that the gens are a bargain, but still one has to beg and plead to get one.
They can shove them up their arms, really.
They don´t deserve me buying one, those stupid idiots.

 

[THXuk]

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[legend]

It´s not that the gens are a bargain, but still one has to beg and plead to get one.
They can shove them up their arms, really.
They don´t deserve me buying one, those stupid idiots.

The fact that something is unobtanium makes it valuable by nature and by extension, desirable. If you think about it, you wouldn’t want it to change. It keeps the brand and model prestige alive.
If it’s something common and you encounter at every turn, it loses its prestige and where watches go, is something which is no longer desirable IMHO.
I do not have problems with getting most Royal Oak models from the boutique (some take longer than others) but even so, the waiting time can be rather long for popular models and second and subsequent Royal Oaks. The pre-requisite spending has also gotten larger to build a healthy profile with AP. It now takes a seven digit spending (at least in my country) to get to the point where you can call the boutique to request for a model you like and even then you’re out on the real allocation list (as opposed to the utterly useless “interest list”) for at list 6-9 months.

 

[CrazyOCD.RepWearer]

You are definitely not wrong to ask for better on whatever detail.
But without this rep being produced at all, there will be no such issue to deal with either.
The factory producing this replica model created the opportunity for each member to pick on the part which bothers them the most.
But not one person will say "hey, the price is not gen like at all!"

Yes absolutely correct. And yet, it takes 0.00003 % effort on their part to put better bezel screws on. That’s what is truly annoying. Dial marker alignment I get. It’s not the only rep that experiences this issue.

And while APSF isn’t making the same margins as AP, I also can’t imagine that they are scraping by with thin profits as they assemble these reps and try to meet demand.

I’ll sit in my bargain bin toy box corner as that’s what I see these reps as, and why I don’t mind having multiples as spares.

 

[daytonadude]

Green arrived and I couldn't be happier.

One point of note: the issue with the poor fit of the bezel screws is an issue with the screws themselves, not the channels. I replaced each one with aftermarket and the fit is so perfectly flush that you actually have to use a bit of force to get them in. It was nearly $300 to replace the screws so it's a pretty stupid mod unless you really care about the matter, of which I really don't give a shit but did anyways to satisfy my curiosity.

Mind sharing a link to the bezel screws you bought?

Edit: Nvm, Watch2Parts

 

[Reaps]

Yes absolutely correct. And yet, it takes 0.00003 % effort on their part to put better bezel screws on. That’s what is truly annoying. Dial marker alignment I get. It’s not the only rep that experiences this issue.

And while APSF isn’t making the same margins as AP, I also can’t imagine that they are scraping by with thin profits as they assemble these reps and try to meet demand.

I’ll sit in my bargain bin toy box corner as that’s what I see these reps as, and why I don’t mind having multiples as spares.

APSF boss / factory may be raking in profits but certainly not the dude assembling your watch for peanuts

 

[Rangerfan]

Yes absolutely correct. And yet, it takes 0.00003 % effort on their part to put better bezel screws on. That’s what is truly annoying. Dial marker alignment I get. It’s not the only rep that experiences this issue.

And while APSF isn’t making the same margins as AP, I also can’t imagine that they are scraping by with thin profits as they assemble these reps and try to meet demand.

I’ll sit in my bargain bin toy box corner as that’s what I see these reps as, and why I don’t mind having multiples as spares.

I will say, when I look at gen APs, the bezel screws look less than perfect, and definately not flush. So the better fitting screws may look better, but I dont think they look more like a gen AP (I have actually seen some sites that list super flush bezel screws as a tell of a fake AP).

Look at these screws on a gen bezel. Maybe they are better than some APSFs, but they also have some gaps (which I think is typical). I am not so certain the rep is that far off if you straighten the screws out on most examples.

 

[CrazyOCD.RepWearer]

APSF boss / factory may be raking in profits but certainly not the dude assembling your watch for peanuts

That’s fair, but I’d venture a guess that the production lines putting the watches together are putting other watches together too. And they’re paid on quantity not quality - which is a management decision.